I see that particular quote from Lila as problematic, but returning to the general topic of retweeting Wikimania conversations, that sounds like it could be fun.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 2:31 PM, "Ed Erhart" eerhart@wikimedia.org wrote:
Pine, I think you're splitting hairs here...
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Joe Sutherland <jsutherland@wikimedia.org
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Getting a little off-topic here, but I still don't see being reckless as necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you learn. That's to be encouraged.
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 15:05, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and patient."
Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or heedless; headstrong or rash. 2. Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland" jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote that can be used instead.
Pine On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
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On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:16, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote:
"Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however.
On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
> Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not > publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy. > > Pine > On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" jbarbara@wikimedia.org > wrote: > >> I think this one deserves one from wikimedia >> >> @RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own >> rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James Alexander < >> jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good >> thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from >> @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring attention >> to the ongoing talks. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> James Alexander >> Legal and Community Advocacy >> Wikimedia Foundation >> +1 415-839-6885 x6716 >> >> >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 09:47, Joe Sutherland < >> jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks >> etc? >> >> Joe >> >> -- >> *Joe Sutherland* >> Communications Intern [remote] >> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu http://twitter.com/jrbsu | >> w: JSutherland >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > >
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