Any chances we are getting a link to the study? I find it completely out of
line to discuss a study - or anything in relation to it - without ever
being able to see the study itself.
Best,
Goran
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Dario Taraborelli <
dtaraborelli(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
ok just to clarify, I will be meeting this Thursday
with a number of
people (including non RCom members) to work on the actual changes for the
Berkman banner, I don't expect RCom members to be involved unless they wish
so.
The purpose of the RCom meeting next week is not to review these changes
but to do a post-mortem of the Berkman incident and discuss best practices
for subject recruitment requests in general.
Dario
On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:24 AM, c.note.lilly wrote:
Dario,
Is this just for those interested in the discussion about the study? Not
the entire RCom?
or you still would like to have all of RCom, just not call this an
official RCom mtg since there will be outsiders (those against the survey?)
Cheryl
*sorry, crazy end of the semester, working on catching up.
On 12/12/11 4:10 PM, Dario Taraborelli wrote:
Here's a link for a doodle poll, please let me know your availability as
soon as possible so we can finalize a date for next week.
I am planning to close this poll by *Saturday 9am PST*.
http://www.doodle.com/vb5w8ntrftmyp4w3
Thanks
Dario
On Dec 12, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Fuster, Mayo wrote:
I find very useful Dario's distinction and agree with the procedural he
suggests, Mayo
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Subject: Re: [RCom-l] The tragedy of the Commons
My feeling is that we shouldn't be conflating the two issues, as this
would be confusing for the community:
1) review of Berkman banner and implementation of changes discussed on the
list
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-December/070765.html
2) discussion of future approach towards SR, Omnibus survey etc
(1) needs to take place this week, I have a conference call (date/time
still tbc) with the researchers and some community members, if any of you
is willing to help with this please let me know off-list and I'll add you
to the list of attendees. I don't feel there's a need to host an actual
RCom meeting to review the proposed changes (which seem fairly
uncontroversial and will be discussed on wiki). I would rather keep this
opportunity to discuss (2) and the broader implications of the Berkman
incident for the future.
Dario
On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:50:24 -0500, Diederik van Liere
<dvanliere(a)gmail.com> <dvanliere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear WSC,
I think we need to be very precise about what the Berkman controversy is
about. My understanding is that the use of banners with logo's on
central
notice during the fundraiser and the kickback of donations is at the
heart
of the controversy. It is not about the legitimacy of the research
institutes, nor is it about surveys as a research methodology, or the
actual research questions. As such, I think that we need to discus how
to
to promote research studies but not debate the merits of Wikipedia
research
itself.
I think right now it is mostly about the lack of communication, and this
is what we need to discuss as well. The main objections have been
summarized at two pages on English Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incide…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Central_Notices
as well as on the Meta proposal page
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Dynamics_of_Online_Interactions_and…
Cheers
Yaroslav
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