[QA] QA Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 (Thanks for pointing me to Vagrant)

Sat Sep 7 03:24:10 UTC 2013

Hi Chris, Quim,

Thank you for directing me towards Vagrant VM! I will try it out and let
you know how it goes.Will also start focusing towards VE+ULS!

Thanks,
Renuka

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>    1. Re: QA Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4 (Testing environment)
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> From: Chris McMahon <cmcmahon at wikimedia.org>
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> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Renuka Alurkar <renukaalurkar at gmail.com
> >wrote:
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> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > I have one more question. If I want to run ULS automated tests on my
> > laptop, what should the environment be?What should be installed?
> >
>
> As Quim noted earlier, Vagrant is a Virtual Machine set up for this.
>
> We've written these down a couple of times:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-06-27
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-07-18 (note that the Vagrant
> info here is out of date)
>
> tl;dr:  you can't go too wrong with a Vagrant VM.  if you're not on
> Windows, RVM is the way to go. If you are on Windows, the one-click
> installer is the best option.
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> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:23:20 -0700
> From: Chris McMahon <cmcmahon at wikimedia.org>
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> Subject: [QA] heuristic for testing VisualEditor with ULS and Selenium
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> When you click 'Edit' on a wiki page in Firefox or Chrome to invoke
> VisualEditor, the editable area is called "CE" for contentEditable.  After
> you make changes, the diff you can see before the final save is called "DM"
> for "data model".
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> It is vitally important that the data held in CE and DM always be identical
> for any edit.  If CE and DM do not agree, then saving the edit corrupts the
> data on the page.  For example, with the help of an automated test I was
> able to demonstrate a race condition causing exactly this problem not long
> ago, which resulted in an emergency fix release:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53360
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> This week Rachel was working on an automated VE test and hit a problem
> because of how Selenium and Firefox interpret the difference between
> "enter" and "return" commands:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53721.  In this case we
> were
> unable to reproduce the error manually, but it makes me suspect that there
> may be some hardware or software somewhere such that creating a newline
> while using VisualEditor to edit CE will cause DM to not recognize the
> changed page contents.
>
> One of the things that ULS makes possible is a choice of "input methods".
>  The more we can have people checking the results of various input methods
> (hardware and software) in VisualEditor the happier we will be.   Rachel's
> experience shows that a newline from an exotic input source *might* be a
> cause of data corruption in VE, but we have to demonstrate the problem
> reliably by a manual operation in order to address it.
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> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:01:35 -0700
> From: Chris McMahon <cmcmahon at wikimedia.org>
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> Subject: [QA] Weekend Testing Sept 7(?)
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> To the best of my knowledge, the Weekend Testing folks will be using Visual
> Editor to update real articles in Wikipedia this Saturday.  I left a
> message on the Talk page here in preparation:
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Software_testing#Weekend_Testers_America_to_edit_on_this_subject_7_September_2013
> and
> I left a notice at the Teahouse also:
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions&oldid=571708956
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> I believe that I will be able to attend WTA on Saturday, but I'm doing so
> as a civilian, not in my WMF staff persona.  :-)
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> -Chris
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