<div dir="ltr">Hi Chris, Quim,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for directing me towards Vagrant VM! I will try it out and let you know how it goes.Will also start focusing towards VE+ULS! </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Renuka</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:00 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:qa-request@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">qa-request@lists.wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Re: QA Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4 (Testing environment)<br>
(Chris McMahon)<br>
2. heuristic for testing VisualEditor with ULS and Selenium<br>
(Chris McMahon)<br>
3. Weekend Testing Sept 7(?) (Chris McMahon)<br>
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:02:18 -0700<br>
From: Chris McMahon <<a href="mailto:cmcmahon@wikimedia.org">cmcmahon@wikimedia.org</a>><br>
To: "QA (software quality assurance) for Wikimedia projects."<br>
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On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Renuka Alurkar <<a href="mailto:renukaalurkar@gmail.com">renukaalurkar@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> Hi Chris,<br>
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> I have one more question. If I want to run ULS automated tests on my<br>
> laptop, what should the environment be?What should be installed?<br>
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As Quim noted earlier, Vagrant is a Virtual Machine set up for this.<br>
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We've written these down a couple of times:<br>
<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-06-27" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-06-27</a><br>
<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-07-18" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-07-18</a> (note that the Vagrant<br>
info here is out of date)<br>
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tl;dr: you can't go too wrong with a Vagrant VM. if you're not on<br>
Windows, RVM is the way to go. If you are on Windows, the one-click<br>
installer is the best option.<br>
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:23:20 -0700<br>
From: Chris McMahon <<a href="mailto:cmcmahon@wikimedia.org">cmcmahon@wikimedia.org</a>><br>
To: "Software quality assurance for Wikimedia projects."<br>
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Subject: [QA] heuristic for testing VisualEditor with ULS and Selenium<br>
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When you click 'Edit' on a wiki page in Firefox or Chrome to invoke<br>
VisualEditor, the editable area is called "CE" for contentEditable. After<br>
you make changes, the diff you can see before the final save is called "DM"<br>
for "data model".<br>
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It is vitally important that the data held in CE and DM always be identical<br>
for any edit. If CE and DM do not agree, then saving the edit corrupts the<br>
data on the page. For example, with the help of an automated test I was<br>
able to demonstrate a race condition causing exactly this problem not long<br>
ago, which resulted in an emergency fix release:<br>
<a href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53360" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53360</a><br>
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This week Rachel was working on an automated VE test and hit a problem<br>
because of how Selenium and Firefox interpret the difference between<br>
"enter" and "return" commands:<br>
<a href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53721" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53721</a>. In this case we were<br>
unable to reproduce the error manually, but it makes me suspect that there<br>
may be some hardware or software somewhere such that creating a newline<br>
while using VisualEditor to edit CE will cause DM to not recognize the<br>
changed page contents.<br>
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One of the things that ULS makes possible is a choice of "input methods".<br>
The more we can have people checking the results of various input methods<br>
(hardware and software) in VisualEditor the happier we will be. Rachel's<br>
experience shows that a newline from an exotic input source *might* be a<br>
cause of data corruption in VE, but we have to demonstrate the problem<br>
reliably by a manual operation in order to address it.<br>
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:01:35 -0700<br>
From: Chris McMahon <<a href="mailto:cmcmahon@wikimedia.org">cmcmahon@wikimedia.org</a>><br>
To: "Software quality assurance for Wikimedia projects."<br>
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Subject: [QA] Weekend Testing Sept 7(?)<br>
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To the best of my knowledge, the Weekend Testing folks will be using Visual<br>
Editor to update real articles in Wikipedia this Saturday. I left a<br>
message on the Talk page here in preparation:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Software_testing#Weekend_Testers_America_to_edit_on_this_subject_7_September_2013" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Software_testing#Weekend_Testers_America_to_edit_on_this_subject_7_September_2013</a><br>
and<br>
I left a notice at the Teahouse also:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions&oldid=571708956" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions&oldid=571708956</a><br>
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I believe that I will be able to attend WTA on Saturday, but I'm doing so<br>
as a civilian, not in my WMF staff persona. :-)<br>
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-Chris<br>
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