[Pywikipedia-l] [ pywikipediabot-Bugs-2096916 ] Grammatically incorrect Esperanto edit summary

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Bugs item #2096916, was opened at 2008-09-06 15:31
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Category: interwiki
Group: None
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Invalid
Priority: 5
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Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Grammatically incorrect Esperanto edit summary

Initial Comment:
There has been a pywikipedia bot running on Esperanto Wiktionary that has been using grammatically incorrect edit summaries. I was told by the bot operator that while s/he could fix it in his/her source, the problem also needs to be fixed in the pywikipedia framework.

This is an example of an edit summary currently produced by the framework (more or less):
roboto aldono de: en, fi, fr, hu, it, ja, ko, ku, pl, ru

It should be:
aldoni: en, fi, fr, hu, it, ja, ko, ku, pl, ru

-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien

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>Comment By: siebrand (siebrand)
Date: 2009-01-27 10:40

Message:
Sorry, cannot make heads or tails from this. I see no unified change
request. Closing as invalid. Please open a new bug with a link to consensus
on eo.wp when you're done discussing. This is a bug tracker, which needs
clear issue reports to we can give you a quick solution.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-14 20:51

Message:
Devus esti : 
roboto aldonis : 
robota aldono de : 

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-14 16:21

Message:
I have made a request at Esperanto Wikipedia at
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedio:Diskutejo#Peto_por_asistado_kun_tradukado
.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-07 15:32

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Comment: "aldono" is more like "something that was added", or "appendix".
So, "aldono de" is "appendix of".

-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien

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Comment By: Melancholie (melancholie)
Date: 2008-09-07 09:18

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Note for non-Esperanto speakers:

The grammatical incorrectness is "roboto aldono de" because this actually
means "robot addition of".

Maybe let's just add a ":"? Meaning "roboto: aldono de: en, de, fr"
(before changing summaries to the verb form, asking at
http://eo.wikipedia.org/ would be recommendable (whether it's desired)).

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-07 03:18

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Hi spacebirdy,

Yes, the others are incorrect. I believe that the idea here was to use a
participle, and there are several ways of translating English participles
into Esperanto, depending on what one wants to say.

If you want to say "A robot is adding ..." in this context, you say
"roboto aldonas ...". "adding ..." is "aldoni ...", which is what I suggest
(leaving off the subject, robot) because it is more simple and less
stilted.

"A robot is modifying ..." is "roboto modifas ...". Alternatively,
"modifying ..." is "modifi ...".

"A robot is removing ..." is "roboto forigas ...". Alternatively,
"removing ..." is "forigi ...".

-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien


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Comment By: ulana merops (spacebirdy)
Date: 2008-09-07 02:49

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Hello, are the other translations then incorrect too?

from interwiki.py:
    'eo': (u'roboto ', u'aldono de', u'forigo de', u'modifo de'),

"forigo de" 
and
"modifo de"?

thanks for Your help, best regards

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