Personally I think we should sign the applet, and invest in it for
about year, pending ogv.js being ready and integrated. Cortado may not
be a great user experience, but it beats no user experience at all.
Looking around on the internet, the cheaper code signing certs cost
about $180 year. This seems like a reasonable option for now, with
hopefully ogv.js being integrated around the time of "kaltura player
upgrades" [1], which I think is supposed to happen late this year.
[1]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/multimedia/2014-June/000580.html
--bawolff
On 6/19/14, Derk-Jan Hartman <d.j.hartman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I would say that we at least should not keep it in
limbo while we wait for
alternatives. Either let's just pull the plug on it now and strip it out of
everything, reducing the complexity of the current TMH code or sign it and
commit to it for another year or something.
DJ
On 19 jun. 2014, at 18:20, Faidon Liambotis <faidon(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi folks,
Brian Wolff (Cc'ed) requested a few days ago for Wikimedia to sign the
Cortado Java applet that we serve as a fallback to play video on
browsers that do not support Ogg video. That's RT #7695.
From Brian's request: "Java has changed their default security settings
so that unsigned java applets (and even signed applets missing
permissions attribute) generally don't run. In order to make this
fallback work, we should sign the java applet."
A non-EV code-signing certificate costs something between $200-$500 per
year but before we go ahead and consider making this expense, I'd like
to open the discussion about Cortado's future.
I know Brion Vibber (also Cc'ed) has made a significant effort on
implelementing Ogg/Ogv decoding functionality in Javascript and Flash
with an end-goal of replacing Cortado, among others. We also had an
impromptu discussion with Brion and a few others in Zurich
(unfortunately with noone from multimedia, though), during which it was
widely agreed that Java applets provide a very poor user experience in
the modern web landscape.
What's the multimedia team's & community's opinion on that? Do you have
any plans regarding Cortado and/or ogv.js? Do you think we should invest
further into Cortado?
Thanks,
Faidon
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