Personally I think we should sign the applet, and invest in it for about year, pending ogv.js being ready and integrated. Cortado may not be a great user experience, but it beats no user experience at all.
Looking around on the internet, the cheaper code signing certs cost about $180 year. This seems like a reasonable option for now, with hopefully ogv.js being integrated around the time of "kaltura player upgrades" [1], which I think is supposed to happen late this year.
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/multimedia/2014-June/000580.html
--bawolff
On 6/19/14, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman@gmail.com wrote:
I would say that we at least should not keep it in limbo while we wait for alternatives. Either let's just pull the plug on it now and strip it out of everything, reducing the complexity of the current TMH code or sign it and commit to it for another year or something.
DJ
On 19 jun. 2014, at 18:20, Faidon Liambotis faidon@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
Brian Wolff (Cc'ed) requested a few days ago for Wikimedia to sign the Cortado Java applet that we serve as a fallback to play video on browsers that do not support Ogg video. That's RT #7695.
From Brian's request: "Java has changed their default security settings so that unsigned java applets (and even signed applets missing permissions attribute) generally don't run. In order to make this fallback work, we should sign the java applet."
A non-EV code-signing certificate costs something between $200-$500 per year but before we go ahead and consider making this expense, I'd like to open the discussion about Cortado's future.
I know Brion Vibber (also Cc'ed) has made a significant effort on implelementing Ogg/Ogv decoding functionality in Javascript and Flash with an end-goal of replacing Cortado, among others. We also had an impromptu discussion with Brion and a few others in Zurich (unfortunately with noone from multimedia, though), during which it was widely agreed that Java applets provide a very poor user experience in the modern web landscape.
What's the multimedia team's & community's opinion on that? Do you have any plans regarding Cortado and/or ogv.js? Do you think we should invest further into Cortado?
Thanks, Faidon
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