[Labs-l] Wikimedia tool framework (php)

[Magog The Ogre]

Also, if anyone needs Peachy help, feel free to send me a private email if
you don't want to bother the list. I'm pretty familiar with it by now.

On Monday, December 8, 2014, Magog The Ogre <magog.the.ogre at gmail.com>
wrote:

> For what it's worth, I've used Peachy extensively and found it good for
> some functions, but lacking in many others.
>
> Also, is it even supported anymore? I've had to write numerous custom
> updates to the framework as the Mediawiki interface changed or to support
> my own needs (e.g., proper handling for the dreaded HTTP 503 code which
> Mediawiki sometimes returns). I'm not sure the framework would even work
> anymore without updates. (I can provide more examples after I get home)
>
> On Monday, December 8, 2014, Petr Bena <benapetr at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','benapetr at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> OK,
>>
>> I have some issues with it though. For example I can't find any decent
>> documentation. How would I for example, create a simple styled index
>> page that would contain OAuth login form? Is there some HTML generator
>> class that would help me construct it?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Maximilian Doerr
>> <maximilian.doerr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Peachy works for both.
>> >
>> > Cyberpower678
>> > English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
>> > Mailing List Moderator
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:04, Petr Bena <benapetr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > That is interesting, but I am not talking about a bot framework, but a
>> > tool framework. eg. something that would be like a set of classes
>> > which would contain functions to handle everything that tool (not bot)
>> > developers needs, from html page generating to API, local db etc. So,
>> > I think this would be something else than "Peachy" thing.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Bruce Myers <bruce at brucemyers.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Check out Peachy.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 14-12-08 10:30 AM, Petr Bena wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > It's been some time since we launched tool labs and there is
>> > incredible number of tools now. They all however have 2 major
>> > problems. Every tool has own, different layout / css style (which may
>> > be confusing the users of these tools) and every developer of these
>> > tools probably have to reinvent a wheel at some point as they all have
>> > to do some common tool setup - eg. they have to create some basic php
>> > skeleton that would access wikimedia resources, from databases,
>> > memcache, reddis to API's and so on.
>> >
>> > What about creating some common uniform framework in php that, just as
>> > pywikipediabot that is used to create bots, would be used to create
>> > web-based tools. So that maintainer of a tool would just fork or clone
>> > this framework and wouldn't have to spend their time creating
>> > functions that would generate html pages with wikimedia uniform style
>> > (similar to how vector looks, for example, or just any uniform style,
>> > so that tools would look similar), access wikimedia databases, OAuth,
>> > ldap, API...
>> >
>> > I believe it would not just make creation of new tools incredibly
>> > simple, but it would also make all tools have consistent look and
>> > feel, and thus improve the end user experience. What you think? Is
>> > there someone who would like to work on that?
>> >
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