[Labs-l] Question: json license not free enough?

Silke Meyer silke.meyer at wikimedia.de
Tue May 28 14:05:38 UTC 2013


Hm. At the same time this means we have to have licenses that are
free-free-free and Terms of Use of Wikimedia Labs that state what is
forbidden/"evil" (no cracking, no illegal content). I understand legal
experts may a problem with that license but to me this still seems
funny.
Cheers, Silke


2013/5/28 Johannes Kroll <johannes.kroll at wikimedia.de>:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 11:03:18 +0200
> Jérémie Roquet <arkanosis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2013/5/28 Johannes Kroll <johannes.kroll at wikimedia.de>:
>> > On Tue, 28 May 2013 09:58:59 +0200
>> > Silke Meyer <silke.meyer at wikimedia.de> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Here: A toolserver user is running javascript validators (explained at
>> >> [1]) that are licensed under the json license [2]. He read that it's
>> >> not free enough because it states "The Software shall be used for
>> >> Good, not Evil."
>> >> Is this a reason to exclude a tool from running in Tool Labs? o_O
>> >
>> > I would hope so. Is this a joke license? It certainly can't be OSI
>> > approved... It would be fun to watch a court define the line between
>> > Good and Evil, though...
>>
>> It's a non-free license anyway… which has already proven to be
>> problematic for some users such as IBM and Google, see
>> http://dev.hasenj.org/post/3272592502/ibm-and-its-minions or
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-10422338-264.html .
>
> I think we should be serious about getting one of those "use for evil"
> permissions.
>
> And printing it on T-Shirts! :D
>
> But seriously, with an unenforceable statement like that, the
> whole license may be invalid... IANAL, of course... And it does make
> the license non-free by OSI definition, I think... It is similar to
> exclusive statements like "This software may not be used by the
> military" which also makes a license non-free...
>
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