[Labs-l] open grid on bots

[Ryan Lane]

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Petr Bena <benapetr at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, as I have already said on irc: as soon as I see a single volunteer
> as sysadmin on tools labs, I will likely become less s(k)eptic. But
> until then you can't expect me to take all my bots and jump into your
> cluster permanently... I can do some tests there if you want, but I
> will not move my bots to some cluster that, to me, appears to be
> worse. (Not by design, but philosophy)
>
>
The tools project isn't meant to be only run by staff. The only reason
tools was created was because we felt it would likely be better for bots
and webtools to be a single project, hence the creation of tools.

We are taking a philosophical change of direction in the tools project
though. We're not allowing root by default. This was a similar goal we
wanted in bots as well. I think we very much want to have volunteer roots,
even at this point, but a requirement for that would be that any changes
that occur on any instance must be discussed with Marc before they are
implemented. He was hired to lead the project, which requires a certain
amount of benevolent dictatorship.

I'd very much like to not lose the effort that's been build in bots, since
it's one of our oldest and best run projects. I'd very much like to see you
guys work together to build a no-root-by-default version of the bots
project together that's puppetized, automated and easy for end-users.

Sound good?

- Ryan
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