[Labs-l] [labs] bots project is turning to testing environment of tools project

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Petr,

This is very confusing. Why not just kill/deprecate the bots project? 
For testing and development we have tools-dev anyway.

Maarten

Op 15-6-2013 13:51, Petr Bena schreef:
> Hi
>
> Most of you already know that, but I will repeat it once more, so that
> everyone who is using bots project is aware of that.
>
> Since tool labs (project tools on wikimedia labs) is now serving the
> purpose which bots project on labs initially served for, we decided to
> convert bots project to testing environment of tools project (and
> shelter both wikimedia labs projects under the one big "virtual"
> project called "tool labs")
>
> I know it is very confusing naming but I hope once "aliasing" of
> project names is possible on wikitech we just rename bots project to
> tools-testing or something like that.
>
> == I am already confused of the naming, explain now, or I will eat you ==
>
> Wikimedia labs = a platform which host virtual instances, each
> instance being a member of some labs project (that is basically entry
> in LDAP which all these instances and members of project are member
> of)
>
> Tool labs = is a project that is supposed to offer hosting for web
> based tools and bots. Tool labs consist of 2 wikimedia labs projects -
> bots (testing) and tools (production)
>
> == What does it mean for me in practice ==
>
> The bots project will look very identical to tools project, but if we
> need to test anything we will do that on bots just to make sure it
> won't break tools project. That is a main difference.
>
> Beside that bots project is going to be smaller (we don't need to
> allocate so many resources just for a testing platform). Right now we
> have 3 grid execution hosts, in future we will probably have 1 (or 2).
>
> Therefore if you are hosting your bot on bots project now, you
> /should/ move it to "stable" version of tool labs which is the tools
> project. You don't need to do that if you don't want - but eventual
> breakages may happen, and stability is not really guaranteed on bots
> project (not that it was on tools :-))
>
>
> TL/DR: If you are hosting your bot on bots project right now, move it
> to tools project if you can, or bad things may (but not necessarily
> will) happen to it, if we manage to break bots during some test.
>
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