[Labs-l] No space left on device - bots project

Daniel Schwen lists at schwen.de
Mon Dec 17 21:20:36 UTC 2012


> Your user is not sudoer on bots-1 because bots-1 is one of worst instances
> we have and people are discouraged from using it - as you can read in docs -
> https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Bots/Documentation#Servers

Well, excuuuuse me. I didn't get the memo. That change was made three
weeks ago. Should I be checking the docs more often?
Maybe. But I think a better idea would be a bots project mailing list.
Daniel

P.S.: I appreciate that you avoided explicitly putting "RTFM" into your mail...

> - on other bots-N instances you are sudoer. On bots-nrN instances you aren't
> but each of them contains /mnt/share - local storage for anything.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Daniel Schwen <lists at schwen.de> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I don't get this discussion. My user is not a sudoer on bots-1, so
>> I cannot setup my own /data/projects directory. Obviously it is a
>> matter of convenience to just use the home directory. And this is a
>> common usage pattern on many hosting services (such as the
>> toolserver). It should be absolutely no surprise that this happens.
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Petr Bena <benapetr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > ~ is a nice place for private data and configuration but production
>> > services, such as bots, should be on a different filesystem. I don't
>> > think
>> > you installed all your applications on your personal computer to home
>> > folder.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Ori Livneh <ori at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ryan Lane wrote:
>> >> > We're switching the home directories to gluster on Monday. That said,
>> >> > it's recommended to not use /home even after the switch.
>> >>
>> >> The fact that you've so often had to remind people not to use ~/
>> >> suggests
>> >> that it violates people's intuitions and expectations about UNIX
>> >> environments. That's certainly been my experience: I keep having to
>> >> remind
>> >> myself not to pile things up in ~/, which forces me to have to rethink
>> >> a lot
>> >> of things that have become practically muscle memory, like setting up a
>> >> virtualenv under ~/ for various handy Python packages.
>> >>
>> >> Are the reasons for deprecating the use of ~/ for storage of personal
>> >> files fundamental to the architecture of labs? If not, I think it'd be
>> >> worth
>> >> reconsidering.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks as always for maintaining such a useful service.
>> >>
>> >> Ori
>> >>
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