[Labs-l] No space left on device - bots project

Petr Bena benapetr at gmail.com
Mon Dec 17 18:41:28 UTC 2012


Per discussion on irc -
http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-labs/20121217.txt - home
is being moved to a bigger storage, that solves all troubles


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Petr Bena <benapetr at gmail.com> wrote:

> we should likely make symlink "bigdata -> /data/project/users/`whoami`" in
> each $HOME in bots project automatically to prevent confusion though. Keep
> in mind that labs are still kind of beta, or they were beta recently, if
> there is anything broken, fix it! including documentation and help pages
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Petr Bena <benapetr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Your user is not sudoer on bots-1 because bots-1 is one of worst
>> instances we have and people are discouraged from using it - as you can
>> read in docs -
>> https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Bots/Documentation#Servers- on other bots-N instances you are sudoer. On bots-nrN instances you
>> aren't but each of them contains /mnt/share - local storage for anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Daniel Schwen <lists at schwen.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I don't get this discussion. My user is not a sudoer on bots-1, so
>>> I cannot setup my own /data/projects directory. Obviously it is a
>>> matter of convenience to just use the home directory. And this is a
>>> common usage pattern on many hosting services (such as the
>>> toolserver). It should be absolutely no surprise that this happens.
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Petr Bena <benapetr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > ~ is a nice place for private data and configuration but production
>>> > services, such as bots, should be on a different filesystem. I don't
>>> think
>>> > you installed all your applications on your personal computer to home
>>> > folder.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Ori Livneh <ori at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ryan Lane wrote:
>>> >> > We're switching the home directories to gluster on Monday. That
>>> said,
>>> >> > it's recommended to not use /home even after the switch.
>>> >>
>>> >> The fact that you've so often had to remind people not to use ~/
>>> suggests
>>> >> that it violates people's intuitions and expectations about UNIX
>>> >> environments. That's certainly been my experience: I keep having to
>>> remind
>>> >> myself not to pile things up in ~/, which forces me to have to
>>> rethink a lot
>>> >> of things that have become practically muscle memory, like setting up
>>> a
>>> >> virtualenv under ~/ for various handy Python packages.
>>> >>
>>> >> Are the reasons for deprecating the use of ~/ for storage of personal
>>> >> files fundamental to the architecture of labs? If not, I think it'd
>>> be worth
>>> >> reconsidering.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks as always for maintaining such a useful service.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ori
>>> >>
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