[Gendergap] Sue's new blog

Fri Sep 30 13:27:48 UTC 2011

Well, at least this confirms that there are a 14 photos of dudes getting
their *own* rocks off on Commons! Thank god!  (Oh...speaking of
permissions...)

You also have to scroll down a bit in Google search before you come across
the article after searching "sucking your own cock". The fact that the
search finds that page based on one of my favorite films, Clerks, is rather
funny.

Wait, where is Sue a liar?

-Sarah

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Béria Lima <beria.lima at wikimedia.pt> wrote:

>
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/069078.html
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> *Béria Lima*
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> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
> estamos a fazer.*
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>
> On 30 September 2011 00:37, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari at wikimedia.org> wrote:
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>> **
>> Would you like to elaborate?
>>
>> Ryan Kaldari
>>
>>
>> On 9/29/11 4:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
>>
>> I think it works both ways: There you might get stomped on by people who
>> disagree with the lies Sue told in the post, and here I will be stomp up for
>> even mentioned that she did lied in that blog post.
>>
>> Safe environment do not exist in this case. Is safeR for supports to come
>> here, and safeR for opposers to go there. That does not make any list safe,
>> only shows that the POV here is different than the POV there.
>> _____
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>> (351) 963 953 042
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>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
>> estamos a fazer.*
>>
>>
>> On 30 September 2011 00:25, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure there are some people on this mailing list who also disagree as
>>> well! We try to provide a safe haven for discussion about sensitive topics.
>>>
>>> But, if any of us spoke up on Foundation-L we'd be risking getting torn
>>> up by often heavily opinionated Foundation-L subscribers, and it gets really
>>> tiring :( It is also nice to have a change in opinion - for those who
>>> dislike the post, there are also many of that support it. Thanks for
>>> bringing up that a different type of conversation is taking place on
>>> Foundation-L! I've been following it.
>>>
>>> -Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Béria Lima <beria.lima at wikimedia.pt>wrote:
>>>
>>>> ehhh, sorry for be the different, but you people are reading the thread
>>>> about that same blog post in Foundation-l ? The opinions there seems to be
>>>> quite different than yours.
>>>> _____
>>>> *Béria Lima*
>>>> Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
>>>> (351) 963 953 042
>>>>
>>>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
>>>> estamos a fazer.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 September 2011 00:09, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari at wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Can I nominate Sue for the Executive Director's Barnstar? :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Kaldari
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/29/11 4:06 PM, Amory wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I normally hate +1s, but I would like to echo this.  Really
>>>>> exceptionally well crafted, and even for people following it's a very good
>>>>> writeup.  Thank you, Sue.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Thanks for the link Sarah. It's an outstanding post by Sue, and a
>>>>>> courageous one, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Andreas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 29/9/11, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [Gendergap] Sue's new blog
>>>>>> To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" <
>>>>>> gendergap at lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, 29 September, 2011, 7:47
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of things I think about, and I'm sure a lot of other people here
>>>>>> think about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure this blog won't be well received on other WMF-related mailing
>>>>>> lists, but, I have to admit - for me - I feel like she's speaking for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want to be a censor, I just want people to have common sense,
>>>>>> good judgement, customer service and logic. And when people call *me*a censor, it's just as offensive as the other names I've been called.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have beencalled a prude, bitch, agitator, bore, conservative,
>>>>>> censor, "anti-woman"... someone with an agenda...etc. I can only thank you
>>>>>> Sue for speaking on behalf of me - when I clumsily try to express myself on
>>>>>> Foundation-L and fear being shot-down and having my "Wiki" self-esteem torn
>>>>>> down.....I just feel like "giving up."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. And I promise everyone, some of us are working towards this,
>>>>>> and working towards a change and a towards a conversation that is adult,
>>>>>> logical and respectful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Sarah
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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