[Gendergap] Nudity vs Islam in Western Europe

[Netha Hussain]

Dear Fred,

  We have 'n' number of mailing lists and forums to discuss politics and
religion. I am subscribing to many such mailing lists, and I take part in
active discussion in them. But now that we are here in gender gap mailing
list to discuss about women participation in Wikimedia projects, let us not
entertain off topic discussion. Let's discuss just enough politics and
religion that may concern gender gap issues on Wikimedia projects - not
more.

Thank you.

In Wikilove,
-- 
Netha Hussain
User: Netha Hussain
*nethahussain.blogspot.com
swethaambari.wordpress.com*


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:

> So you think we might get more done if we have the common sense not to
> discuss politics and religion?
>
> Fred
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Apologies for my bad English. English is not my mother tongue.
> >
> > Let us not use this mailing list to discuss religion. Let us concentrate
> > on
> > strategies to improve participation of women in Wikimedia projects
> > instead.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > --
> > Netha Hussain
> > User: Netha Hussain
> > Student of Medicine and Surgery
> > *nethahussain.blogspot.com
> > swethaambari.wordpress.com*
> >
> >
> > remember that women's rights are way, way more important than
> > the interests of Wikimedia Foundation.
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Ryan Kaldari
> > <rkaldari at wikimedia.org>wrote:
> >
> >> Just wanted to say that I didn't take any offense from Michael's
> >> comments. I was probably a bit out of line in my characterization of
> >> Christianity. I was just trying to point out that any religion, when
> >> taken literally, can be problematic. There were actually many books
> >> published during the American Civil War about how the Bible endorsed
> >> slavery. They make a convincing argument if you accept all of their
> >> Bible quotes taken out of context.
> >>
> >> The part about women being subservient is actually quite pervasive in
> >> the bible, both old and new testament. See:
> >> 1 Peter 3:1-6
> >> 1 Timothy 2:11-14
> >> Colossians 3:18
> >> Ephesians 5:22-23
> >> 1 Corinthians 14:33-35
> >> 1 Corinthians 11:3-10
> >> Isaiah 19:16
> >> Deuteronomy 22:20-21
> >> Genesis 3:16
> >> Genesis 2:18
> >> This is certainly not a novel interpretation. Indeed it seems very
> >> difficult to argue that the Bible does not consider women subservient
> >> to
> >> men.
> >>
> >> The part about beards is Old Testament and only taken seriously by
> >> Orthodox Christians, Amish, Mennonites, etc.
> >>
> >> The part about putting adulterers to death is also Old Testament and
> >> obviously not taken seriously by most Christians, although John Calvin
> >> did argue that the Bible justified the death penalty for adultery (as
> >> have other Christians historically).
> >>
> >> All that said, I am not trying to imply that modern Christianity is an
> >> oppressive religion. I'm just saying that historically, it has a few
> >> skeletons in its closet and it went through some serious growing pains,
> >> as is Islam.
> >>
> >> Ryan Kaldari
> >>
> >> On 9/23/11 7:00 PM, Michael J. Lowrey wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Emily
> >> Monroe<emilymonroe03 at gmail.com>
> >>  wrote:
> >> >> Michael Lowry, what you just said was said was sarcastic and
> >> potentially
> >> >> uncivil.
> >> > So Ryan and Carol can lie about MY religion, and I'M the one accused
> >> > of incivility?
> >> >
> >>
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