[Gendergap] Sue's new blog

Sat Oct 1 20:55:53 UTC 2011

No, I shared a post with my opinion in the subject. Kaldari didn't asked me
to explain why Sue is a liar, he asked me  - And I quoting - "Would you like
to elaborate?"

That can be read in many ways. I read as a ask for read my opinion, but you
-  apparently - read as a "prove" that Sue was lying.

And as for google, If you google "auto-felatio" "suck my own cock" "suck my
dick" or whatever variation you can think of, you still knows exactly what
you getting, so that does not annul my point, only proves it.
_____
*Béria Lima*
Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
(351) 963 953 042

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer.*

On 1 October 2011 16:24, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch  gmail.com> wrote:

> Beria - I presume you're asking me?
>
> You shared a post "replying" to Kaldari asking you to explain you think Sue
> Gardner is a liar.
>
> And The only thing I got out of it is that we have a collection of
> photographs of men sucking their own penises on Commons.  I was also testing
> Google - they say that a large amount of visitors read that page a month,
> and surely most of them probably don't search for "auto-fellatio" when
> looking for that content of men pleasuring themselves. So, I googled
> "sucking my own cock" since I presume a lot of men Google that content when
> trying to figure out how to do so, what it looks like, etc.
>
> When I was in high school boys used to joke about being able to do it. This
> was before Google existed. So I was just using past experiences to see how
> someone would stumble across the "auto-fellatio" page without typing
> "auto-fellatio".
>
> Other than that, I never figured out why you think Sue Gardner is a liar.
>
> I'm laughing that I just re-explained that, heh, but I hope it helps,
>
> -Sarah
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Béria Lima <beria.lima  wikimedia.pt>wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry but whatever you took before write that mail I didn't,
>> therefore, I didn't understand a word. Can you explain yourself?
>> _____
>> *Béria Lima*
>> Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
>> (351) 963 953 042
>>
>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
>> estamos a fazer.*
>>
>>
>> On 30 September 2011 14:27, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch  gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Well, at least this confirms that there are a 14 photos of dudes getting
>>> their *own* rocks off on Commons! Thank god!  (Oh...speaking of
>>> permissions...)
>>>
>>> You also have to scroll down a bit in Google search before you come
>>> across the article after searching "sucking your own cock". The fact that
>>> the search finds that page based on one of my favorite films, Clerks, is
>>> rather funny.
>>>
>>> Wait, where is Sue a liar?
>>>
>>> -Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Béria Lima <beria.lima  wikimedia.pt>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/069078.html
>>>> _____
>>>> *Béria Lima*
>>>> Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
>>>> (351) 963 953 042
>>>>
>>>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
>>>> estamos a fazer.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 September 2011 00:37, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari  wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>> Would you like to elaborate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan Kaldari
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/29/11 4:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it works both ways: There you might get stomped on by people
>>>>> who disagree with the lies Sue told in the post, and here I will be stomp up
>>>>> for even mentioned that she did lied in that blog post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Safe environment do not exist in this case. Is safeR for supports to
>>>>> come here, and safeR for opposers to go there. That does not make any list
>>>>> safe, only shows that the POV here is different than the POV there.
>>>>> _____
>>>>> *Béria Lima*
>>>>> Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
>>>>> (351) 963 953 042
>>>>>
>>>>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>>>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
>>>>> estamos a fazer.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 September 2011 00:25, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch  gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure there are some people on this mailing list who also disagree
>>>>>> as well! We try to provide a safe haven for discussion about sensitive
>>>>>> topics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, if any of us spoke up on Foundation-L we'd be risking getting
>>>>>> torn up by often heavily opinionated Foundation-L subscribers, and it gets
>>>>>> really tiring :( It is also nice to have a change in opinion - for those who
>>>>>> dislike the post, there are also many of that support it. Thanks for
>>>>>> bringing up that a different type of conversation is taking place on
>>>>>> Foundation-L! I've been following it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Sarah
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Béria Lima <beria.lima  wikimedia.pt>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ehhh, sorry for be the different, but you people are reading the
>>>>>>> thread about that same blog post in Foundation-l ? The opinions there seems
>>>>>>> to be quite different than yours.
>>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>> *Béria Lima*
>>>>>>> Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
>>>>>>> (351) 963 953 042
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de
>>>>>>> ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
>>>>>>> estamos a fazer.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30 September 2011 00:09, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari  wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Can I nominate Sue for the Executive Director's Barnstar? :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kaldari
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/29/11 4:06 PM, Amory wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I normally hate +1s, but I would like to echo this.  Really
>>>>>>>> exceptionally well crafted, and even for people following it's a very good
>>>>>>>> writeup.  Thank you, Sue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466  yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Thanks for the link Sarah. It's an outstanding post by Sue, and
>>>>>>>>> a courageous one, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Andreas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 29/9/11, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch  gmail.com>*wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch  gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Gendergap] Sue's new blog
>>>>>>>>> To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" <
>>>>>>>>> gendergap  lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, 29 September, 2011, 7:47
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A lot of things I think about, and I'm sure a lot of other people
>>>>>>>>> here think about.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure this blog won't be well received on other WMF-related
>>>>>>>>> mailing lists, but, I have to admit - for me - I feel like she's speaking
>>>>>>>>> for me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't want to be a censor, I just want people to have common
>>>>>>>>> sense, good judgement, customer service and logic. And when people call
>>>>>>>>> *me* a censor, it's just as offensive as the other names I've been
>>>>>>>>> called.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have beencalled a prude, bitch, agitator, bore, conservative,
>>>>>>>>> censor, "anti-woman"... someone with an agenda...etc. I can only thank you
>>>>>>>>> Sue for speaking on behalf of me - when I clumsily try to express myself on
>>>>>>>>> Foundation-L and fear being shot-down and having my "Wiki" self-esteem torn
>>>>>>>>> down.....I just feel like "giving up."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks. And I promise everyone, some of us are working towards
>>>>>>>>> this, and working towards a change and a towards a conversation that is
>>>>>>>>> adult, logical and respectful.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Sarah
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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