<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">No, I shared a post with my opinion in the subject. Kaldari didn't asked me to explain why Sue is a liar, he asked me - And I quoting - "</font>Would you like to elaborate?<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"<br>
<br>That can be read in many ways. I read as a ask for read my opinion, but you - apparently - read as a "prove" that Sue was lying.<br><br>And as for google, If you google "auto-felatio" "suck my own cock" "suck my dick" or whatever variation you can think of, you still knows exactly what you getting, so that does not annul my point, only proves it. <br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 October 2011 16:24, Sarah Stierch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sarah.stierch@gmail.com">sarah.stierch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Beria - I presume you're asking me? <br><br>You shared a post "replying" to Kaldari asking you to explain you think Sue Gardner is a liar.<br><br>And The only thing I got out of it is that we have a collection of photographs of men sucking their own penises on Commons. I was also testing Google - they say that a large amount of visitors read that page a month, and surely most of them probably don't search for "auto-fellatio" when looking for that content of men pleasuring themselves. So, I googled "sucking my own cock" since I presume a lot of men Google that content when trying to figure out how to do so, what it looks like, etc. <br>
<br>When I was in high school boys used to joke about being able to do it. This was before Google existed. So I was just using past experiences to see how someone would stumble across the "auto-fellatio" page without typing "auto-fellatio". <br>
<br>Other than that, I never figured out why you think Sue Gardner is a liar. <br><br>I'm laughing that I just re-explained that, heh, but I hope it helps, <br><font color="#888888"><br>-Sarah</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Béria Lima <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beria.lima@wikimedia.pt" target="_blank">beria.lima@wikimedia.pt</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I'm sorry but whatever you took before write that mail I didn't, therefore, I didn't understand a word. Can you explain yourself?<br clear="all">
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que estamos a fazer.</i><br>
<br><br></div><div><div></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 September 2011 14:27, Sarah Stierch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sarah.stierch@gmail.com" target="_blank">sarah.stierch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Well, at least this confirms that there are a 14 photos of dudes getting their <i>own</i> rocks off on Commons! Thank god! (Oh...speaking of permissions...) <br><br>You also have to scroll down a bit in Google search before you come across the article after searching "sucking your own cock". The fact that the search finds that page based on one of my favorite films, Clerks, is rather funny. <br>
<br>Wait, where is Sue a liar? <br><font color="#888888"><br>-Sarah</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Béria Lima <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beria.lima@wikimedia.pt" target="_blank">beria.lima@wikimedia.pt</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/069078.html" target="_blank">http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/069078.html</a><br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 September 2011 00:37, Ryan Kaldari <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rkaldari@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">rkaldari@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<u></u>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
Would you like to elaborate?<br><font color="#888888">
<br>
Ryan Kaldari</font><div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
On 9/29/11 4:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I think it
works both ways: There you might get stomped on by people who
disagree with the lies Sue told in the post, and here I will be
stomp up for even mentioned that she did lied in that blog post.<br>
<br>
Safe environment do not exist in this case. Is safeR for
supports to come here, and safeR for opposers to go there. That
does not make any list safe, only shows that the POV here is
different than the POV there. <br clear="all">
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<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 30 September 2011 00:25, Sarah Stierch
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sarah.stierch@gmail.com" target="_blank">sarah.stierch@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
I'm sure there are some people on this mailing list who also
disagree as well! We try to provide a safe haven for
discussion about sensitive topics.<br>
<br>
But, if any of us spoke up on Foundation-L we'd be risking
getting torn up by often heavily opinionated Foundation-L
subscribers, and it gets really tiring :( It is also nice to
have a change in opinion - for those who dislike the post,
there are also many of that support it. Thanks for bringing up
that a different type of conversation is taking place on
Foundation-L! I've been following it. <br>
<font color="#888888">
<br>
-Sarah</font>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM,
Béria Lima <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beria.lima@wikimedia.pt" target="_blank">beria.lima@wikimedia.pt</a>></span>
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<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">ehhh, sorry
for be the different, but you people are reading the
thread about that same blog post in Foundation-l ?
The opinions there seems to be quite different than
yours.<br clear="all">
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humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.</i>
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<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 30 September 2011
00:09, Ryan Kaldari <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rkaldari@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">rkaldari@wikimedia.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Can I
nominate Sue for the Executive Director's
Barnstar? :)<br>
<font color="#888888"> <br>
Kaldari</font>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
On 9/29/11 4:06 PM, Amory wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I normally hate
+1s, but I would like to echo this.
Really exceptionally well crafted, and
even for people following it's a very
good writeup. Thank you, Sue.<br clear="all">
<br>
~A<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep
29, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Kolbe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jayen466@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jayen466@yahoo.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
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<td style="font:inherit" valign="top">Thanks for
the link Sarah. It's an
outstanding post by Sue,
and a courageous one, too.
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<div>Andreas</div>
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From: Sarah Stierch
<<a href="mailto:sarah.stierch@gmail.com" target="_blank">sarah.stierch@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Gendergap]
Sue's new blog<br>
To: "Increasing
female participation
in Wikimedia
projects" <<a href="mailto:gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org</a>><br>
Date: Thursday, 29
September, 2011,
7:47
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<br>
<div><a rel="nofollow" href="http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/" target="_blank">http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
A lot of
things I think
about, and I'm
sure a lot of
other people
here think
about.<br>
<br>
I'm sure this
blog won't be
well received
on other
WMF-related
mailing lists,
but, I have to
admit - for me
- I feel like
she's speaking
for me. <br>
<br>
I don't want
to be a
censor, I just
want people to
have common
sense, good
judgement,
customer
service and
logic. And
when people
call <i>me</i>
a censor, it's
just as
offensive as
the other
names I've
been called. <br>
<br>
I have
beencalled a
prude, bitch,
agitator,
bore,
conservative,
censor,
"anti-woman"...
someone with
an
agenda...etc.
I can only
thank you Sue
for speaking
on behalf of
me - when I
clumsily try
to express
myself on
Foundation-L
and fear being
shot-down and
having my
"Wiki"
self-esteem
torn
down.....I
just feel like
"giving up."<br>
<br>
Thanks. And I
promise
everyone, some
of us are
working
towards this,
and working
towards a
change and a
towards a
conversation
that is adult,
logical and
respectful. <br>
<br>
<3<br>
<br>
-Sarah<br>
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