[Gendergap] Moderation?

Oliver Keyes scire.facias at gmail.com
Tue Feb 15 14:34:05 UTC 2011


Taking into account is all well and good. This list exists to come up with
solutions to the issues. If capitalism is the problem, if socialism is the
problem, if religious belief is the problem, wonderful! We know what the
problem is. Unfortunately, we can't actually do anything *about* it. Looking
at the alleged historical origins of misogyny does not help us deal with the
current issues.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Miguelinito <miguelinito at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why not? When you're thinking at high level, you have to take
> everything into account, usually things that would seem ridiculous
> to a lot of people who are not used to thinking at high level, and
> it's almost for sure that we won't solve the apple problem, but taking
> a step backwards helps seeing things with a more realistic point of view,
> specially when you're scope is global. And the fact is that Wikipedia
> is an American enterprise affecting the whole world, and another fact
> is that the United States is a great country, but also a country with
> a lot of ballast from the past. If we really want to be the *free*
> encyclopedia, we have to think in a free way, I have to take into
> account capitalism, you have to take into account socialism, I have to
> take into account religion, and you have to take into account
> pornography. Avoiding problems is not the best way to solve them, and
> the best way to learn to be wise is being stupid sometime.
>
> Miguel Ángel
>
> > --- On Mon, 14/2/11, Casey Brown <lists at caseybrown.org> wrote:
> >> From: Casey Brown <lists at caseybrown.org>
>
> >> Maybe, or just more clear expectations of what isn't the
> >> most helpful
> >> things here.  I've been seeing a lot of general/deep
> >> philosophical
> >> questions and topics like the Bible and capitalism.  I
> >> don't know
> >> about anyone else, but I just click "mark all as read" for
> >> those ones.
> >> :-)  This list is about increasing gender diversity in
> >> Wikimedia
> >> projects, not about describing the history of gender issues
> >> throughout
> >> time.
>
> > I agree with Casey (although I still read most of these posts).
> > We can't start the discussion with Adam and Eve.
>
> > Andreas
>
>
> >
>
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>
> --
> Saludos,
>  Miguelinito                            mailto:miguelinito at gmail.com
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