[Gendergap] Thinking about Solutions

[Miguelinito]

Hello, Brandon

I think that it shouldn't depend on other users, because, no matter
how responsible they were, everybody could have sometime a bad day.
I think that such a system should encourage the creation and/or improvement
of articles, i.e., an objective system. Something similar to the
barnstar to the featured article editor, but more detailed.

Regards

Miguel Ángel



Estimado Brandon,

Con fecha miércoles, 09 de febrero de 2011, 22:35:27, escribió:

> On 2/9/11 1:28 PM, Miguelinito wrote:
>> Hello again, Brandon.
>>
>> Very nice ideas. There's only one of them that I'm not sure if it'll
>> improve the social relations or just the opposite thing:
>>
>>>         A reputation system is a form of soft "social currency."  Helpful
>>> individuals (those with high "helpful" marks) are called out and those
>>> with low-value are de-emphasized.  New users would be able to recognize
>>> individuals that the community has determined to be high-value.  This
>>> helps to encourage trust, which promotes community health and vibrancy.
>>
>> This could be (it certainly would be) used by some (male) users as a weapon
>> of vengeance against others, and there could be a real war in the
>> discussion pages. You know, reputation is very close to ego, and ego
>> is very close to dispute. And such a system would tear apart people
>> with no possibility to improve their reputation, because, once your
>> reputation goes down, nobody will want to vote for you. It's
>> discriminatory, in my opinion, unless you have something else in mind
>> I don't know...

>         Right.  This is a delicate line.

>         As I mentioned before, we have many ways to indicate *displeasure* but
> very few ways to encourage.

>         My initial thoughts included both a "Helpful" and a "Not Helpful"
> system. Upon reflection, however, I have come to think that including a
> negative position ("Not Helpful") would actually be, uh, not helpful. 
> We don't need additional ways to call people jerks.

>         So I have come to think in a more "optimistic" mode, focusing on reward
> alone.  The problem with that, however, comes with newbie biting by 
> trolls.

>         My current thinking is to not include a "down vote" system but rather
> add in a "flagging" system.  Flagging something would be less obvious 
> and would not be "gameable" - especially if a posting could be marked 
> "patrolled" or otherwise considered acceptable and immune to flagging.

>         To be sure, this is very shaky ground and requires a great deal of
> thought.  It may come to pass that this is just another ghost of an 
> idea, consigned to a graveyard.  But I think it's worth talking about.






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 Miguelinito                            mailto:miguelinito at gmail.com