[Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com
Fri Sep 30 16:06:23 UTC 2011


Am 30.09.2011 17:49, schrieb Andreas Kolbe:
> --- On Fri, 30/9/11, Ryan Kaldari<rkaldari at wikimedia.org>  wrote:
>
> From: Ryan Kaldari<rkaldari at wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters
> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Friday, 30 September, 2011, 0:28
>
>
> On 9/28/11 11:30 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>> This post appears mostly to be the tone argument:
>>
>> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Tone_argument
>>
>> - rather than address those opposed to the WMF (the body perceived to
>> be abusing its power), Sue frames their arguments as badly-formed and
>> that they should therefore be ignored.
> Well, when every thoughtful comment you have on a topic is met with
> nothing more than chants of "WP:NOTCENSORED!", the tone argument seems
> quite valid.
>
> Ryan Kaldari
> Quite. 
> I have had editors tell me that if there were a freely licensed video of a rape (perhaps a historical one, say), then we would be duty-bound to include it in the article on [[rape]], because Wikipedia is not censored. 
> That if we have a freely licensed video showing a person defecating, it should be included in the article on [[defecation]], because Wikipedia is not censored. 
> That if any of the Iraqi beheading videos are CC-licensed, NOTCENSORED requires us to embed them in the biographies of those who were recently beheaded. 
> That if we have five images of naked women in a bondage article, and none of men having the same bondage technique applied to them, still all the images of naked women have to be kept, because Wikipedia is not censored.
> And so on.
> Andreas
>
I guess you misunderstood those people. Most likely they meant, that 
there should be no rule against such content, if it is an appropriate 
Illustration for the subject. Would you say the same, if this[1] or some 
other documentary film would be put under the CC license? Wouldn't it be 
illustrative as well as educational?

[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtvuLAZxgOM



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