[Foundation-l] Meta main page

[M. Williamson]

Yes, my browser language is Spanish and I got the page in English. Also, in
response to Gerard's comment: "Obviously, you can select any language you
like." - well, where? Where is the language selector? I don't see it
anywhere. There doesn't appear to be a language list, a selector, a button
or anything like that...


2011/9/29 Béria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>

> >
> > *Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser
> > language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match.
> > *
>
>
> No it doesn't. I live in Portugal and my Firefox and my Opera are in
> Portuguese and - If I don't log in - they only show me the English version
> of Main Page. If I do log in, I see the Portuguese one because my language
> -
> In Special:Preferences - is Portuguese.
> _____
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>
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>
>
> On 29 September 2011 05:23, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser
> > language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match.
> > Thanks,
> >       GerardM
> >
> > 2011/9/28 M. Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
> >
> > > Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who
> don't
> > > speak English, coming at it from the front page. Imagine you don't
> speak
> > > English, how do you suppose you go from http://translatewiki.net/ to a
> > > page
> > > with instructions or content in your language? One needs at least
> > > rudimentary English skills to be able to figure it out, which is an
> > > unsatisfactory solution for what is supposed to be an international
> > > project.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho.
> > > However,
> > > > it
> > > > has been localised and we know quite precisely what the state of the
> > > > translations is. We can pinpoint precisely what needs doing.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >      GerardM
> > > >
> > > > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/de
> > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/en
> > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/es
> > > > >
> > > > > Few examples of the new meta main page in its templated form which
> > > allows
> > > > > easier translation. Most translations are greatly outdated
> > > unfortunately
> > > > > making them essentially useless. A divide and conquer strategy was
> > > > applied.
> > > > >
> > > > >  -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, I was proposing something simpler than what I had on my
> commons
> > > > > > userpage. Consider something like
> > > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/Gen v
> > > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/de
> > > > > > Translators only /care/ about the text rather than the style
> issues
> > > and
> > > > > > etc. It is difficult enough finding people who can translate but
> > > > > expecting
> > > > > > them to understand complex use of html, templates and etc is just
> > too
> > > > > much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The feature you mentioned would indeed be a positive thing to
> keep
> > > > these
> > > > > > pages up to date. We could also have generic translations. For
> > > example
> > > > we
> > > > > > expect steward elections frequently, likewise we expect a
> >  wikimania
> > > > each
> > > > > > year. It would only make sense if these "current events" are
> > > templated
> > > > on
> > > > > > their own.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2011/9/27 Mono mium <monomium at gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Might make sense.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2011/9/26 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Meta main page seems to be not very multi-lingual because it
> > > appears
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> be
> > > > > >> > difficult to update. Each translation is more or less outdated
> > and
> > > > > often
> > > > > >> > with an outdated/older style. I propose a template structure
> > where
> > > > > style
> > > > > >> > info is "removed" into a template and translations only deal
> > with
> > > > > words.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Feel free to comment at:
> > > > > >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Templates
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >  -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
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