[Foundation-l] Meta main page

M. Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Thu Sep 29 01:38:03 UTC 2011


Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who don't
speak English, coming at it from the front page. Imagine you don't speak
English, how do you suppose you go from http://translatewiki.net/ to a page
with instructions or content in your language? One needs at least
rudimentary English skills to be able to figure it out, which is an
unsatisfactory solution for what is supposed to be an international project.


2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>

> Hoi,
> The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho. However,
> it
> has been localised and we know quite precisely what the state of the
> translations is. We can pinpoint precisely what needs doing.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
> 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com>
>
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/de
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/en
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/es
> >
> > Few examples of the new meta main page in its templated form which allows
> > easier translation. Most translations are greatly outdated unfortunately
> > making them essentially useless. A divide and conquer strategy was
> applied.
> >
> >  -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
> >
> >
> > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com>
> >
> > > Oh, I was proposing something simpler than what I had on my commons
> > > userpage. Consider something like
> > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/Gen v
> > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/de
> > > Translators only /care/ about the text rather than the style issues and
> > > etc. It is difficult enough finding people who can translate but
> > expecting
> > > them to understand complex use of html, templates and etc is just too
> > much.
> > >
> > > The feature you mentioned would indeed be a positive thing to keep
> these
> > > pages up to date. We could also have generic translations. For example
> we
> > > expect steward elections frequently, likewise we expect a  wikimania
> each
> > > year. It would only make sense if these "current events" are templated
> on
> > > their own.
> > >
> > >   -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
> > >
> > >
> > > 2011/9/27 Mono mium <monomium at gmail.com>
> > >
> > >> Might make sense.
> > >>
> > >> 2011/9/26 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com>
> > >>
> > >> > Meta main page seems to be not very multi-lingual because it appears
> > to
> > >> be
> > >> > difficult to update. Each translation is more or less outdated and
> > often
> > >> > with an outdated/older style. I propose a template structure where
> > style
> > >> > info is "removed" into a template and translations only deal with
> > words.
> > >> >
> > >> > Feel free to comment at:
> > >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Templates
> > >> >
> > >> >  -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
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