[Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

[Mateus Nobre]

I don't know about your family, but I have no enemies at mine. Didn't understand the relation about ''family environment'' and ''friends and enemies'': this looks like more ''factions/clans environments'' than ''family envornment''. Actually, in some wikipedias (including pt.wiki) we have some factions  (great groups of users who disagree in everything that another group agree, and vice versa), consequence of our lagged and tory collaborative way,  which is actually the antithesis of the word ''collaborative'': very unattractive to newbies today.


When I spoke ''family'' I wanted to say we need a more likable system of communication. We need a real collaborative method, which not only fit for the editions, but for the treatment of users too. We're a big family working for a common objective: a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge.

Why we treat ourselves like co-workes when we have so many things in common? Why we have to be a firm when we could be friends who works together for the common good? Why not reduce the unnecessary bureaucracy among the editors communication with Wikilove? It's just a way to make the Wikimedia projects friendly and really collaborative!
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> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:30:23 +0400
> From: putevod at mccme.ru
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove
> 
> 
> > We're not just talking about a tool, but a revolution in the way of
> > communicative and collaborative Wikipedia. It is a way to make Wikipedia
> a
> > family environment, not a court or an academy of letters. We need that.
> > Wikipedia really needs that at all.
> > _____________________
> > MateusNobre
> > MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> > (+55) 85 88393509
> >               30440865
> 
> No, not at all. I do not want to work in a family environment. A couple of
> years ago, on Russian Wikipedia we had an admin who indeed treated
> Wikipedia as a family environment, dividing the community into "friends"
> and "enemies", being rude to enemies, making plots with friends and so on.
> She was quickly desysopped and then banned for two years, and it looks like
> she had finally learned some of her lessons, but I still recollect this
> editing atmosphere of 2008 over there as a nightmare, with several
> "families" fighting against each other and so on. I have heard that
> Portuguese Wikipedia something similar is or was going on (not that I care
> so much). Traditional societies have their advantages and disadvantages. 
> 
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
> 
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