[Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com
Sun Oct 23 00:35:50 UTC 2011

Am 23.10.2011 01:57, schrieb Billinghurst:
> On 22 Oct 2011 at 15:36, Erik Moeller wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:56 PM, David Gerard<dgerard at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On 22 October 2011 22:51, Tobias Oelgarte
>>> And, in detail, why is a hide/show all solution inadequate? What is
>>> the use case this does not serve?
>> A show/hide all images function is likely too drastic to serve some of
>> these use cases well. So for example, if you're at work, you might not
>> want to have autofellatio on your screen by accident, but you'd be
>> annoyed at having to un-hide a fabulous screenshot of a wonderful
>> piece of open source software in order to mitigate that risk.
> Plus for the occasions that some kind vandal adds similar images to your user talk page so
> that you don't even know or have control over what is being displayed let along an ability
> to stop it.  An unfortunate eye opener in the workplace, or similarly at home when working
> with the family.  :-/
> I do wish that this discussion can just move to implementation. This is about what I get
> to filter for what I get to see, or when I get to see it. I have had enough of other
> people believing that they get to make their choices for me.
> Regards, Andrew
The idea isn't bad. But it is based on the premise that there are enough 
users of the filter to build such correlations. It requires enough input 
to work properly and therefore enough users of the feature, that have 
longer lists. But how often does an average logged in user find such an 
image and handle accordingly? That would be relatively seldom, resulting 
in a very short own list, by relatively few users, which makes it hard 
to start the system (warm up time).

Since i love to find ways on how to exploit systems there is one simple 
thing on my mind. Just login to put a picture of penis/bondage/... on 
the list and than add another one of the football team you don't like. 
Repeat this step often enough and the system will believe that all users 
that don't like to see a penis would also not like to see images of that 
football team.

Another way would be: "I find everything offensive." This would hurt the 
system, since correlations would be much harder to find.

If we assume good faith, then it would probably work. But as soon we 
have spammers of this kind, it will lay in ruins, considering the amount 
of users and corresponding relatively short lists (in average).

Just my thoughts on this idea.


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