[Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonavaro at gmail.com
Sat Oct 22 20:13:23 UTC 2011

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Dirk Franke
> <dirkingofranke at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> And people who talked privately about a fork for some time, start to think
>> and say it loud.
> Thanks for the update, Dirk. I think it's good that people are
> seriously discussing what it would mean to fork and how it would be
> done. Forking the project if WMF policies or decisions are considered
> unacceptable is one of the fundamental ways in which Wikimedia
> projects are different from most of the web; it's a key freedom, one
> which should be exercised judiciously but which should be preserved
> and protected nonetheless.
> With that said, I also think it's important to remember that Sue has
> explicitly affirmed that the development of any technical solution
> would be done in partnership with the community, including people
> who've expressed strong opposition to what's been discussed to date.
> [1]

I am sorry but this is purest echo chamber talk, you are dealing out.
You hear what you are saying, but you don't hear a thing anyone else
is saying, There has always been a consensus that what you are
proposing is evil and against what we as a non-profit free content
stand for. There has never been the slightest consensus we should
take one step on the road you want us to embark on. Period,

> The vote in German Wikipedia, and most of the discussions to date,
> have focused on the specific ideas and mock-ups that were presented as
> part of the referendum. But as Sue has made clear, those ideas and
> mock-ups are just that, and the Board resolution creates room for
> different ideas as well, ranging from the simple (disabling/blurring
> all images) to the complex (like a category-based filtering system).
> Some of these ideas are explored here:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_filter_referendum/Next_steps/en#Potential_models_for_hiding_images
> Is there a similar brainstorming page on dewiki already? If not, would
> you be interested in organizing some community discussion on whether
> there are solutions within the scope of the resolution that the dewiki
> community would find acceptable, or whether the prevailing view is
> that the resolution itself should be scrapped altogether?

The resolution was always against long held perennial proposal
opposition. It never was going to fly. Walk away from the dead horse.

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]

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