[Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

[Andreas Kolbe]

Hubert, 

The fact is that the English word "violence" has a quite different etymology, and a much narrower meaning, than the German word "Gewalt", which historically also means "control", or even "administrative competence".

The scope of the English article is indeed appropriate to the English word "violence", because that word lacks several shades of meaning that the German word "Gewalt" has.

Andreas 


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From: Hubert <hubert.laska at gmx.at>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Monday, 10 October 2011, 18:58
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

David, did you read the german article completely?
have you compared the contents of which part of the concept of violence
and more attention is paid to what portion of the term violence in en:
wp did not occur?

Gewalt ist nicht unbedingt in gleicher Form Gewalt.

to say it simply: hitting someones head, to shoot s.o. is in en: WP the
primary part of the article (this is very simplifying, indeed). The
German article is a far greater degree of philosophical and sociological
issues of violence.

This difference alone makes it clear that a single definition of what
violence is or may be, and how it manifests itself in images, can not
even enter.

Quite frankly, I do not want that maybe people who are socialized to a
far greater degree in a culture of violence than other cultures can be
categorized by images of tens of thousands to impose his concept of
violence.

Even though we are all Wikipedians, even within the German Wikipedia,
there are significant cultural differences.

And violence is - contrary to religion and sexuality - just the smaller
problem.
h

Am 10.10.2011 12:22, schrieb David Gerard:
> On 10 October 2011 11:17, Hubert <hubert.laska at gmx.at> wrote:
>> Am 09.10.2011 16:35, schrieb Anneke Wolf:
> 
>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gewalt
> 
>> dear Anneke,
>> +1
>> and see the basic difference and the disaccordance in understanding and
>> meaning of violence.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence
> 
> 
> I don't understand what point is being made here.
> 
> 
> - d.
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