[Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia
gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sun May 22 08:02:43 UTC 2011
Leave off. Foundation-l is a place where relevant subjects can be raised. It
is a place that has a bad reputation among some because of the aggressive
When Dror complains about stalking, it is a valid point of concern. It is
the reason why some people I admire left our community. When you have
concerns about Dror using sock puppets, there are ways to raise these
concerns without contaminating the issue of stalking on this list.
On 22 May 2011 08:07, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to request that Dror be moderated on Foundation-L. This
> is not an appropriate use of Foundation-L, Dror has one of the more
> extensive sockpuppetry histories of any Wikipedia abuse case (
> ) and is using identical phrasing in comments here as the IP editor
> who is now IP range blocked, which aligns with prior comments he has
> historically made. He has in private email responded to my question
> as to whether he is the IP editor by demanding to know what connection
> I have with Supreme Deliciousness.
> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Dror Kamir <dqamir at bezeqint.net> wrote:
> > I am not going to act as if this is a trial against me. If this is a
> > trial, then I have every right to know who accuses me and on what
> > ground. Currently what we have here is a WP user who says he has private
> > information about me and about other users, allegedly proving we are the
> > same person (this might mean that I'm Superman, but I won't put this
> > assumption into test...). This claim of his indicate that he has been
> > stalking me and other users. This is a serious issue.
> > Dror K
> > בתאריך 22/05/11 08:08, ציטוט George Herbert:
> >> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Dror Kamir<dqamir at bezeqint.net>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> I found an email today from someone who still cares to keep me updated
> >>> about what happens on the English Wikipedia's "corridors". Since my
> >>> is mentioned in the discussion, he thought I'd be interested in this.
> >>> There is a user on the English language Wikipedia who calls himself
> >>> "Supreme Deliciousness". He was blocked and warned on and off because
> >>> his highly political edits and constant war edits. Now he started
> >>> stalking people, apparently I included. Admins fully cooperate with
> >>> I wouldn't have brought this issue to the attention of this mailing
> >>> list, unless I had serious suspicions that illegal or highly unethical
> >>> actions are going on.
> >>> Many people here don't like my attitude toward Wikipedia. I am not here
> >>> to argue about that. I will have plenty of time to discuss it with
> >>> anyone who'd like to on other occasions. I think my service to
> >>> and its projects, even when I had profound disagreements about the
> >>> policy of the organization, was good enough to give me some credit. Now
> >>> we are talking about unethical, or possibly illegal actions that are
> >>> talking against me and people who, for some unknown reason, are
> >>> associated with me.
> >>> Here is the link to the discussion on en-wp:
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Drork
> >>> The user "Supreme Deliciousness" says: "I have private information that
> >>> I can send to admin through mail that links Drork to these IPs."
> >>> I want to receive all such private information about me, so I could see
> >>> whether I should file complaints to my Internet Service Provider or
> >>> a higher instance, as there is clearly a breach of my privacy. I think
> >>> further checks should be made against "Supreme Deliciousness" to see
> >>> whether he stalks other users. I also want to know why admins take this
> >>> issue so lightly. If people dislike me - so be it, but I, and other
> >>> people involved, are entitled to some protection against stalkers.
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Dror K
> >> Nobody is hacking your accounts, Dror.
> >> You used exactly the same phrases in complaining about this as the IP
> >> did complaining about it.
> >> Do you assert that you are not that IP editor?
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