[Foundation-l] [Commons-l] Commons as an art gallery?

Thomas Morton morton.thomas at googlemail.com
Mon May 16 22:29:07 UTC 2011


Yes. I would agree that image is the other side of the line and into
pornography.

Tom Morton

On 16 May 2011, at 23:22, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:

> I feel like this image from the same author: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Futanari.png might be crossing the lines. Given Niabot's user page loudly railing against Commons being "censored", I'd say the issue is less "art" and more "lets see who we can shock and/or piss off."
>
> -Dan
> On May 16, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Thomas Morton wrote:
>
>> Ah... this is one of those perennial issues that is unlikely to be solved
>> this time around.
>>
>> I think casting this a gender issue is incorrect; certainly amongst my group
>> of friends those who would not appreciate the image are fairly evenly split
>> between male/female. I think most rational adults can tell the difference
>> between porn (or gratuitous sexuality) and nudity.
>>
>> The other problem is not recognizing this as art, in the same way as
>> artistic nudes. Given the ease of making images nowadays there is an awful
>> lot of them out there - and this one certainly  runs a fine line. It's an
>> area that is always going to be subjective.
>>
>> Commons is, surely, about media. Is this good media? I am no expert of this
>> genre, but it seems reasonably decent. At the end of the day, NOTCENSORED
>> does come into play - it is a legitimate genre, where the image is judged to
>> be of a high quality. It just happens that it offends the sensibilities of,
>> by comparison to other issues, a largish portion of the editing community.
>>
>> There is an irony in there somewhere.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 16 May 2011 21:10, Robert Rohde <rarohde at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2011/5/16 David Richfield <davidrichfield at gmail.com>:
>>>> How on earth can this become the POTD on any Wikipedia?  It's
>>>> tolerably well executed art, but utterly non-notable.
>>>
>>> The Commons Picture of the Day process allows photos / illustrations
>>> of a very high technical quality to be promoted even if they have no
>>> claim to notability at all.  In general, "notability" has very little
>>> to do with Commons at any level.
>>>
>>> -Robert Rohde
>>>
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