[Foundation-l] Wikisource's translation efforts, Babel and Translate extensions

[Samuel Klein]

A few nice translation extensions have become mature recently, and are
being considered for use on the Projects:

John Vandenberg commented recently that Wikisource has been looking to
have the Babel extension installed, and Siebrand notes the Translate
extension is ready for wider use, say on Meta or Mediawiki.org:

Siebrand:
> have a look at kde.userbase.org for a real-life example of a page translation
> implementation in a MediaWiki wiki[1]. A description of the features and
> process is available at translatewiki.net[2].

[1] http://userbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALanguageStats&code=nl
[2] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Page_translation_feature

> what's keeping it [from being used] currently lies outside translatewiki.net's staff span
> of control (community voice and WMF resources).

For anyone who currently works on direct translations (of help
messages, primary sources, &c), check out the kde example above.


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:01 PM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> John, if you don't mind, can we move this thread to foundation-l?
> sure.
>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:16 AM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There is also interest in the English Wikisource community.
>>> The babel extension doesnt break anything, so I think en.ws would be
>>> happy to try it.
>>
>> Yes.  That would be grand.
>
> I have started a formal vote in the existing discussion
>
> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikisource/en/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#Babel_extension
>
>>>English Wikisource is starting to focus on this for 2011, and knows it
>>>needs better software.
>>>
>>>http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:WikiProject_Translation
>>>
>>>We are considering developing this functionality on top of the
>>>proofread page extension that we use.
>>>
>>>http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ProofreadPage
>>
>> That's great.  Wikisource needs its own wiki newspaper to cover the
>> cool things happening there  :)
>
> we used to have a nice newsletter.
> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:News/Archives
>
> and the multilingual
> http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:News
>
>> Main namespace pages on all language Wikisources, rather than being
>> separate language projects, would usually be exact translations of one
>> another... so a future sort of Translate extension might be
>> implemented on all of them.
>
> Yea, the primary gap is the ability to translate between subdomains,
> whereas extension:translate currently only works on a single project.
> This gap might be reduced by enabling scary page transclusion between
> wikisource projects for only the 'Page' namespace...


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