[Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

[Wjhonson]

Again you are referring to the hosting or presentation of non-free content and I am not.
I am not referring to the DISPLAY of videos within Wikipedia.
Only the LINKING of videos from Wikipedia.

99.9999% of Youtube videos have no licensing information at all so there is no way to tell if they are being uploaded by the copyright holder.
The Wikipedian copyright police take a worst-case position and disallow all such linking.

I am suggesting that linking itself should be a moot issue.
By the way Thomas this thread is for suggesting ways to move forward.










-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Morton <morton.thomas at googlemail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations


>
 Go back to the more transparent rationale that copyright infringement rests
 solely upon the person who uploaded the copyrighted item, not on people who
 merely link to it.  That would allow us to link to YouTube videos for
 example (not host them, just link to them).

 Why read an article on Wikipedia about say.... Shirley Temple, if someone
 else has an identical article AND video streaming as well so you can watch
 one of her movie or a newsreel interview.

 Re-hosters will eventually figure this out,  grab all of our content and
 improve upon it.  We should get there before they do.


trongly disagree. Wikipedia is built on the principle that freely licensed
ontent rocks and is the future. Making use of non-freely licensed content
akes that goal hypocritical and awkward.
(by the way; there is not necessairily an issue with linking to Youtube
ontent - if it is correctly licensed, then it is fine)
Besides; no one has managed to make use of Wikipedia content and build on it
n a way that you suggest - if it were so clear an advantage I am sure
omeone would have done it by now!
Wikipedia but with extra non-free images and videos is not a Wikipedia with
ignificant extra value. A picture may be worth a thousand words, but we
ave millions :)
Tom
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