[Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

[Fred Bauder]

> Are there people who would like to help me collect such cases like those
> of Astrology, Kosovo, the Middle East etc. and/or cases that were sent
> to arbitration which didn't help much and the like, and productively
> analyze them in order to think of better ways to treat them and the
> users involve? I am going to talk about the issue on Wikimania 2011 (in
> Haifa), but there is no reason to wait. I believe that this is one of
> the major reason why potential users are reluctant to join and new users
> are driven out.
>
> Dror K

What I remember about the worst of these, perhaps the eastern Europe and
Balkans, the Armenia-Azerbaijan cases, Pakistan-India, was that it was
hideously difficult to sort out all the different editors, many socking,
and really do justice in each individual editor's case. That resulted in
blanket remedies where the article, or even the whole geographical area
was put on "probation". This gives administrators considerable power and
discretion. This was part of a movement empowering administrators, based
essentially on the realization that careful consideration of each detail
by a small central group was so difficult as to be impossible. The hope
was that the administrators would grown into the enlarged responsibility.

I have a feeling that thinking of "better ways to treat them" may be
quite difficult. Aggressive edit warring drives people away, but often
the people being driven away have point of view agendas of their own,
they are just not knowledgeable enough about Wikipedia techniques to get
away with it. Right there I think there might be some progress
made...cutting some slack for new editors who engage in naive point of
view editing. From my experience, I doubt the other side of that
equation, griefing experienced editors who aggressively bully is very
practical.

Fred

>
> בתאריך 10/04/11 00:59, ציטוט Fred Bauder:
>>> Even in the most harsh legal
>>> systems people are not always punished for breaking the law, because
>>> circumstances are also taken into account. It is quite awkward that
>>> Wikipedia, that started with the "ignore all rules" principle, has
>>> become even harsher with regards to users' violations of rules.
>>>
>>> Dror K
>> That's what we're talking about...
>>
>> Fred
>>
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