[Foundation-l] Greg Kohs and Peter Damian

Andreas Kolbe jayen466 at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 18 02:37:53 UTC 2010

--- On Mon, 18/10/10, Virgilio A. P. Machado <vam at fct.unl.pt> wrote:
> I strongly disagree with both
> decisions.
> Sincerely,
> Virgilio A. P. Machado
> (Vapmachado)

While I appreciate the situation the moderators are in, I'm afraid I disagree too -- in particular in Peter's case, whose contributions generally seem intelligent and constructive. 

Greg's contributions may be provocative, but a culture that is able to tolerate provocation and dissent without losing its composure is healthier than one that cannot. That includes being able to deal with the occasional searching question from someone like Greg. 

I realise the moderators' aim is to prevent disruption. And I am aware that back-and-forth discussions about putting a member in an online discussion group on moderation are one of the most tedious and unproductive types of discussions to have. It's something that can make moderating an online discussion group a truly invidious task, making the most well-meaning moderator feel their job is not appreciated.

That is not so.

But I feel compelled to point out that falling prey to groupthink* is often a more hazardous fate for a group than suffering disruption.


* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

> At 01:05 18-10-2010, you wrote:
> >Hi guys,
> >
> >After extensive discussion among the list
> administrators, we've
> >enacted, for the first time, a permanent ban of a
> mailing list member.
> >  Greg Kohs is no longer welcome to participate on
> Foundation-l.
> >
> >Peter Damian has also been moderated once again, and
> will remain on
> >moderation for the indefinite future.
> >
> >Austin
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