[Foundation-l] Fwd: Pt-Portuguese Wikipedia

[Virgilio A. P. Machado]

Mark,

A page in the Portuguese Wikipedia could shut out 
the community at large. A bilingual page would be 
very hard to pull off. As far as I can tell, 
non-Portuguese discussions are not welcomed there.

I looked at Meta and saw no place for a page like 
that. Could you be more specific?

That's why I brought the question to the list: I 
really don't know where a discussion like that 
could take place within the projects of the Wikimedia Foundation.

Going back to my initial posting:

«Perhaps the question is not the creation of a 
new version of Wikipedia, but to make the 
Portuguese Wikipedia appealing to all readers and 
writers (editors) of the Portuguese language. 
There might be solutions and proposals to address 
this problem which have been kept from seeing the 
light of day, for untold reasons.

It might be worthwhile to open a page where the 
discussion could be centralized.»

Like Chad pointed out, even within this 
discussion, there have been posts suggesting 
several helpful rules and technical approaches. 
Solutions from different projects could be 
brought together and would be available for all 
those where they might be useful. This would make 
the discussion less specific to the Portuguese 
Wikipedia but more valuable to the Wikimedia 
community. Even with that broader scope I don't 
know where to start. If there's not already a 
place like that, where would it appropriate to create one?

Sincerely,

Virgilio A. P. Machado


At 17:44 24-03-2010, you wrote:
>I think there are two options: Meta and pt.wp itself. My personal opinion is
>that it does not need to be bilingual, but that is of course up to you.
>
>On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado <vam at fct.unl.pt>wrote:
>
> > Thanks Chad. I know that, but what kind of page (what title)? Where?
> > Would it be alright to be bilingual?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Virgilio A. P. Machado
> >
> >
> > At 23:25 23-03-2010, you wrote:
> > >It requires you to take initiative to start the page and try to draw
> > >others into a discussion. You don't need anyone's permission to do
> > >that. Also, I think it was (briefly) glossed over before, but there
> > >/is/ the Language Converter code in MediaWiki that could be
> > >leveraged to help some here. I don't think it's necessarily a magic
> > >bullet, but it's worth exploring. I know nothing in Portuguese, so I
> > >don't really grasp how widespread the discrepancies are, but I
> > >assume there's rules to describe them. Social solutions are also
> > >helpful, like the aforementioned American/British and Cyrillic/Latin
> > >issues mentioned earlier in the thread. A combination of social and
> > >technical solutions might just help bring some closure to this
> > >issue. -Chad
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