[Foundation-l] Texts deleted on French Wikisource

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Wed Jun 2 14:05:45 UTC 2010


Hoi,
The notion that French is spoken only in France is factually wrong.
Consequently the claim that French literature targets the French public is
arguably wrong as well. Either French is a world language or it is only
spoken by the French public, you cannot have it both ways.

Not only in my opinion is French a world language.
Thanks,
       GerardM

On 2 June 2010 14:43, Yann Forget <yannfo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> In the beginning of March 2010, a few hundreds files have been deleted
> on the French Wikisource following a request from Gallimard, a leading
> French publisher. [1] The Wikimedia Foundation received a request from
> Editions Gallimard to takedown content from the French Wikisource.
> This request is based on Editions Gallimard's claim that "Wikisource
> content in the French language targets the French public, and
> therefore, under French conflict of laws principles, the copyright law
> of France applies to this content." They were deleted, according to
> Mike Godwin, following the Online Copyright Infringement Liability
> Limitation Act [2]. These texts are from a dozen authors, and some are
> even in the public domain in France.
>
> In addition, I receive a personal letter, as "the main editor" of
> these texts, according to Gallimard. We didn't receive any information
> from the Wikimedia Foundation, and I know the details only because I
> have been personally involved.
>
> I understand that there is a 15 business days delay after which the
> material "must be put back up" (cf. Wikipedia) if Gallimard does not
> file a lawsuit. Now three months later, we didn't receive any
> information from the Foundation about this, and the texts are still
> deleted. Many contributors are obviously not very happy, and feel that
> the Foundation submitted to the pressure of a commercial publisher.
> Comparing with the National Portrait Gallery affair on Commons, it
> looks like a double standard was applied.
>
> Just a few days before these texts were deleted, I asked Cary what was
> the official opinion of Wikimedia Foundation about texts which are in
> the public domain in USA, but not in France. I was told that "the
> community is entitled to decide by itself".
>
> Comments?
>
> Regards,
>
> Yann
>
> [1]
> http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Demande_des_%C3%A9ditions_Gallimard_du_15_f%C3%A9vrier_2010
> [2]
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act
>
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