[Foundation-l] Discussion Questions for Potentially-Objectionable Content

[Ryan Kaldari]

I don't think using an illustration of Bukake rather than a photo is a 
"failure of neutrality", but perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree on 
that. Regardless, as a global project, we need to seriously consider 
what steps we can take to accommodate cultures very different from our 
own, while still retaining the openness and comprehensiveness that make 
our project so successful as an educational resource and collaborative 
project. If that means we let some people filter what they see on 
Wikipedia, so be it. And if it means banning Goatse from the Main Page, 
I'm not going to complain. Obviously we must defend Wikipedia against 
real censorship threats (deleting religious imagery, whitewashing 
political scandals, DMCA abuses, etc.), but I don't see anything 
threatening about Mr. Harris evaluating the issues, or people discussing 
ideas for filtering technology. I think we're pretty far away from the 
edge of the "slippery slope", but if that changes, I'll be right there 
with you defending the integrity of the project.

Ryan Kaldari

On 7/26/10 12:39 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 26 July 2010 20:08, Ryan Kaldari<rkaldari at wikimedia.org>  wrote:
> failure
>    
>> offer filtering. Frankly, we're already filtering content, even on
>> en.wiki, but only according to a "default" Western/American POV. We use
>> line drawings instead of photos in articles on sex positions.
>>      
>
> And this was a defective compromise with pushers of the censored POV
> at the time, so using it as a reason for more is the begging the
> question fallacy.
>
> Wikimedia's bias is to NPOV and the sum of the world's knowledge.
> Deliberately restricting that by default is a violation, on the face
> of it. Apart from using past failures as justification for future
> failures, do you have a proposal to address the problem of prior
> default filtering as a failure of neutrality in a manner that shows
> understanding of why this is a problem?
>
>
> - d.
>
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