[Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"

[wiki-list at phizz.demon.co.uk]

WJhonson at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 6/30/2010 5:36:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> wiki-list at phizz.demon.co.uk writes:
> 
> 
>> If a way of halting the gross infringements can't be done. Then  go back 
>> to hitting the seeders with $22,000 fines per infringed work. The 
>> economic costs of simply walking away and not stopping the piracy are 
>> too much.>>
> 
> 
> They know perfectly well how to do it, they've been doing it.
> If you can't actually get 85 million dollars out of a 13-year-old girl, 
> well then that's your tough luck, welcome to jurisprudence U.S. style.
> 

The loss to the economy is staggering. Yet you'd do nothing, apply no 
sanctions, bitch about rights management, and let $billions each year be 
filtch from the creative industries. That 13 yo is as much a thief as 
the person that smashes the jewelers window and throws the contents into 
the street. Maybe we should have her MySpace and Facebook page branded 
with THIEF.


> And if after you keep attacking housewives and children, your image is 
> horrible, well that's your tough luck as well.
> If people hate you because you're trying to protect a work on which you 
> haven't *actually* made any income in thirty-five years.... that's your tough 
> luck.
> 
> I shouldn't use the work "luck" however in this case, since it implies you 
> didn't bring it upon yourself.


What that someone who creates something that others want is to blame, 
because others have decided that they somehow have an entitlement to take?


> How about this counter-offensive.  Threaten to repeal copyright to the 
> point, where any holder *only* gets ten years.  That's it.
> Ten years to make your money then it's public domain.  We can call it the 
> "Knock it off or else" proposal.
> 

The bulk of the theft is contemporary works, not the works from 10 years 
ago, but the works that were created last week.

That aside if I invest a bunch of money in some stocks that gives me a 
share in the profits of that companies I've invested in. No one says 
that in 10 years time my rights to a share in those profits are forfeit, 
  and the rights devolved to some general class of whiners and moaners 
with an inflated sense of entitlement.