[Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

[John Vandenberg]

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:35 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...This, btw, is how Citizendium
> became a pseudoscience haven:
>
> http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Citizendium#The_concept_of_expertise_on_Citizendium

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:57 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 August 2010 17:52, David Moran <fordmadoxfraud at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, right.  That's kind of what I mean.  These things happened to
>> Citizendium because credentialism is the natural outcome of trying to create
>> a system of valuing a certain class of contributors more than others.
>
>
> I was amazed just how actively negative credentialism could be -
> Shirky posited it as merely putting a dead weight on the project, not
> actually driving it backwards. Did anyone actually predict it would
> result in CZ becoming a crank magnet?
>
> If anyone wanted to advocate credentialism on Wikimedia projects,
> they'd first have to work out how to fix the pseudoscience problem on
> CZ.

Irony.  David Gerard disparaging CZ using a rationalwiki page as evidence.

Pseudo-science, pseudo-humanities, etc are no stranger to Wikipedia,
and our processes have not always been victorious over it.  Simply
put, the rubbish on Wikipedia outweights the rubbish on CZ, and I
suspect that an academically sound study would indicate that,
proportionally speaking, Wikipedia pollutes the interweb more than CZ.

Compare the rationalwiki page for CZ and WP.  I wonder how large their
WP page would be if a similar level of critical analysis was applied.

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John Vandenberg