[Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

[teun spaans]

I regard Erik highly for his skills in analyzing data which is already
present. I am completely confident he can do some thought provoking
analysis.

Unfortunately, the skills required for putting a good questionare together
are different from those on analyzing the data.

The remarks I have seen so far are about the technical features of the
questionaire, lack of testing, and the contents of the questions.
Bad questions generate bad responss, and bad responses mean bad data. No
doubt Erik will be able to make some use of these data, but would his
talents not have been much more usefull if the proper amount of thinking and
testing had gone into this questionaire?

The results of the usability project have disappointed many, see earlier
discussions on this list. Will there be more to come from the useability
project?
What actions can be taken to correct the currrent questionaire? Can it be
stopped and replaced by a better set of questions later?
What has suggested the need for a commons questionaire in the first place?
What analysis has already been done on this topic? What gave rise to the
current set of questions?

teun

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hoi,
> Assume - ass u me ... When you look at the presentation of the statistics,
> when you consider the "score card" that were recently announced. I am happy
> to agree with you that it does not say on Erik's user page on en.wp that he
> had any formal statistics training.. Erik for your information is Dutch and
> I think you assume that the en.wp is Erik's main project.
>
> That is fine and hardly relevant. The WMF staff has someone who I
> appreciate
> for his statistics work and I expect that Erik will continue to be involved
> in any statistics work on any project. I assume this to be the case because
> new statistical data has to become integrated in one way or another in
> order
> to ensure that we continue to record, report and anaylse  data even after
> the end of a time boxed project.
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
> 2009/10/26 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
>
> > 2009/10/26 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> > > Hoi,
> > > Ehm, the statistics that we have are compiled by Erik Zachte..
> qualifying
> > > our staff and implicitly Erik as lacking the experience is .... a bit
> > off.
> > > It is not only the Commons project but also the Usability Initiative
> and
> > the
> > > Strategy project that will rely largely on these numbers..
> >
> > I'm not talking about the article numbers, user numbers, etc.
> > statistics. I'm talking about this usability survey. Erik isn't on the
> > usability team and even if he was helping with this his user page on
> > enwiki doesn't mention any statistics training - his skills lie in
> > gathering the statistics, not analysing them.
> >
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