[Foundation-l] Comparison of Chinese Wikipedia, Hudong and Baidu Baike

Ziko van Dijk zvandijk at googlemail.com
Sun Nov 1 19:56:27 UTC 2009


Thank you for the information!
I am curious what the ESP group about China will have to report.
Kind regards
Ziko


2009/10/20 Jimmy Xu <xu.jimmy.wrk at gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> First of all, apologize for any inconvenience made by my poor grammar.
>
> As a Chinese, I should say, most people here knows (or uses) the Baidu
> Baike, because Baidu is commonly known in China Mainland so its
> service is well-known too. As for Hudong, although it's known as the
> largest Chinese encyclopedia (per it's main page), I should say that
> it's not so well-known as Baidu's. At least for me, I didn't heard
> about it unless someone mentioned it in the Village Pump. And for
> Zhwiki, the amount of users is increasing now because before the
> Olympics last year, the Chinese government unblocked the Wikipedia.
> As for the collaboration process, both Baidu and Hudong use a
> manual-checking process. That is if you submit a "sensitive" edit, it
> won't be displayed and possibly you'll be blocked without further
> notice. (But, if you just "vandalize" these two sites, like add some
> jokes, most of the time this would be passed and displayed...)
> And as I know, the Wikipedia is the only which requires a reliable
> source when adding something doubtful. So although "WIKIPEDIA MAKES NO
> GUARANTEE OF VALIDITY", it's sure to be more reliable than the other
> two.
> After all, the last question: "how liberal is the content". The answer
> to this question will also solve the problem why the Chinese Wikipedia
> has fewer users from China Mainland. Because the server of the
> Wikipedia is placed in the USA, the Chinese government cannot
> "control" these (as it controls Baidu or Hudong or etc). So it use
> something called the "GFW" to block the Wikipedia from being accessed
> by China citizens since the Wikipedia is "neutral" and do not filter
> information as the government wants. For example, if you attempted to
> access [[:zh:六四事件]] (which is *very* "sensitive") you will see
> "Connection was reset" and you'll be unable to use the Wikipedia in 90
> seconds. That also produced a bad impression like oh, the site is
> down. Clearly, you are not able to see any information about that on
> the "intranet" of China.
>
> That's something I can say about these three. Regards.
>
> Jimmy Xu
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Having read
>> http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/10/14/wiki.china/
>> I would like to collect more information about the situation of online
>> encyclopedias in China Mainland. I am now browsing a litte bit around
>> with Google Translator, but it remains difficult to get an impression
>> concerning the following questions:
>> * how the collaboration process differs
>> * how good is the content
>> * how liberal is the content (not contamined directly or indirectly by
>> the government)
>> Does someone of you knows more?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
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>> Ziko van Dijk
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