[Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people
Jimmy Wales
jwales at wikia-inc.com
Mon Mar 2 17:35:38 UTC 2009
Anthony wrote:
> Sounds good, but how good is OTRS at handling these issues? Are there any
> statistics available as to what percentage of OTRS complainers are satisfied
> with the resolution? Does OTRS provide any escalation for people who aren't
> satisfied with their initial results?
In general, I think that OTRS does an excellent job, and they do provide
escalation (to me sometimes, or to Mike Godwin). I'm unaware of anyone
making it through the OTRS process and not being (more or less)
satisfied, with only one exception - a biography that I learned of
recently (prefer not to say which one out of risk of accidentally
causing a news headline) where OTRS had appropriately fixed the article
but over time (2, maybe 3 years) the "errors" had crept back in.
(I put "errors" in scare quotes not to suggest that they were not
falsehoods, but rather to emphasize that what was going on, in my
opinion, was not innocent error, but maliciousness.)
> Another good idea, but how would an article be accepted as "well balanced"?
> You just can't write about a topic which has any level of controversy and
> come up with an article which everyone will agree is "well balanced". No
> matter what you write, someone is going to have a problem with it, so
> marking an article as "well balanced" is more likely to increase the
> complaints rather than reduce them.
This is contrary to all my experience. Even controversial topics can be
well balanced.
Just as a side note - in my experience, virtually no BLP complaints that
I have heard in person were invalid. Even highly controversial people
(or perhaps, *especially* highly controversial people) aren't worried
about the controversies being accurately reported. They are concerned
that they be reported fairly and in reasonable proportion to their
overall history. In my opinion, we fail miserably at that in far too
many cases, and just because no one has complained yet, this does not
mean that we are doing a good job.
Let me repeat that in a different way, for emphasis: I think that a
great number of our biographies, and bad in a particular way. Minor
controversies are exploded into central stories of people's lives in a
way that is abusive and unfair, and games players have learned how to
properly cite things and good people have a hard time battling against
violations of WP:UNDUE.
This is true even in cases where the subjects haven't complained, and it
is a problem not just in terms of our ethical responsibilities to
subjects of biographies, but also in terms of our ethical
responsibilities to our readers, who depend on us for neutrality.
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