[Foundation-l] Why don't we re-encode proprietary formats as Ogg?

[Jussi-Ville Heiskanen]

Brian wrote:
> How is that different from:
> "[...] if there is content that is *only* encumbered by the encoding, we
> should embrace [...]"
>
>   
You forgot the bit about liberating it.
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro at gmail.com
>   
>> wrote:
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>> Brian wrote:
>>     
>>> Pretty sure we are saying the same thing - what part of my comment struck
>>> the wrong chord with you?
>>>
>>>       
>> I think it is the " we should accept free content in any format."
>> bit. ;-)
>>     
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <
>>>       
>> cimonavaro at gmail.com
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>>>> wrote:
>>>>
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>>>       
>>>> Brian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> I hold the same sort of pragmatic view. In the absence of freely
>>>>>           
>> licensed
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>>>>> content encoded in a free format we should accept free content in any
>>>>> format. I think it would take a revolution within the Foundation staff
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> and
>>>>
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>>>>> the most vocal parts of the community (note that I did not say
>>>>>           
>> majority),
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>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> I think this is the exact opposite of what I wished to convey.
>>>>
>>>> I do not hold we should accept non-free content. I don't hold
>>>> that view. Period.
>>>>
>>>> But if there is content that is *only* encumbered by the
>>>> encoding, we should embrace and liberate it from those
>>>> bonds.
>>>>
>>>> That is all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> It seems like a lot less work to solve the recoding
>>>>> problem, and anyway, there is a lot of content that has yet to be
>>>>> produced to worry about. Sticking to the ideals no matter what will
>>>>> help more of that free content in free formats be produced in the
>>>>> future when there are more people around to do the
>>>>> creating.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> cimonavaro at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> Tim Starling wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Some people in the community take the view that supporting
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>> proprietary
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>>>>>>> standards, as an option alongside free standards, weakens the ability
>>>>>>> of the free standards to compete for mindshare and client support,
>>>>>>>               
>> and
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>>>>>>> thus that it shouldn't be done. We would have to have that
>>>>>>>               
>> discussion,
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>>>>>>> and possibly a vote on the issue, before deployment of any software
>>>>>>> solution. But the software should come first, at the very least it
>>>>>>> will be useful to support alternate free formats such as Dirac, Speex
>>>>>>> and FLAC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> I don't know who "Some people in the community" are,
>>>>>> but just in case they are anything like myself, who does
>>>>>> hold a view not entirely distant from the one you describe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The one thing I would say is that gettin unencumbered
>>>>>> material that was only encumbered by the encoding it was
>>>>>> being carried by to formats that are free, is a net plus, no
>>>>>> matter if it meant we were also carrying the encumbered
>>>>>> format version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yours in deep amity;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>>>>>>
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