[Foundation-l] GFDL Q&A update and question

Ray Saintonge saintonge at telus.net
Sun Jan 11 19:20:51 UTC 2009

Anthony wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>> A prize for best cross-media reuse of content - I love it.   I will
>> contribute to the prize pool one large gnu, and one piece of similarly
>> huggable CC swag, signed by free-content luminaries To Be Named.
>> --SJ
> How does this help in creating a world in which every single human being can
> freely share in the sum of all knowledge?
> Nice gimmick, but c'mon.  Engraved tankards aren't the best way to share
> knowledge.
With that comment you would certainly win a bobblehead of Richard 
Stallman if such a thing were available.  This could be awarded for a 
single-minded devotion to whatever topic is at hand to an extent where 
all shmoos and tribbles march past unnoticed.

Sam, Phoebe and perhaps Geni were all able to accept the spirit of a 
pleasant diversion, and develop new ideas accordingly.  After all, there 
is more to Wikieschatology than the knowledge itself.

> Granted, including full change histories is overkill, but at the very least
> I think you ought to mention the names of the authors who want to be
> attributed.  If their contributions are so small as to make that infeasible,
> you probably have a good case for fair use/fair dealing.  There's absolutely
> no reason the license should allow for anything else.
> Erik claims that a link to the change history is attribution.  But then he
> claims that the change history itself isn't there for attribution.  Then he
> goes on to point out that it's possible to do more.  That's great that it's
> possible, but a license should make due credit mandatory, not just possible.
> Fix Mediawiki first and then get back to us, Erik.
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:57 PM, phoebe ayers wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:59 PM, geni wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> Secondly you hit the issue that the license states that attribution
>>>> should be reasonable "reasonable to the medium or means". Quite apart
>>>> from the problem that this will vary from legal system to legal system
>>>> the range of medium means that the resources needed for the guidance
>>>> section are immense consider:
>>>> Plastic models
>>>> stained galss
>>>> Globes with maps on them
>>>> Cameo (carving)
>>>> Wood pannel painting
>>>> knitting
>>>> Portrait photographs
>>>> Ceramic sculpture
>>>> metal cannon models
>>>> maps
>>>> computer games
>>>> documentaries
>>>> quiz books
>>>> magazines
>>>> Ceramic cups
>>>> Engravings on Tankards
>>>> music on magnetic tapes
>>>> music by popular beat combos on vinyl records popularly known as ah "45s" etc
>>>> All of which I can see without moveing from where I'm sitting or
>>>> indeed turning around.
>>> Ha! I would like to immediately challenge community members to come up
>>> with some way to reuse wikimedia content in one of the media listed by
>>> geni, above... (a knitted article, authors embroidered on the back?
>>> An engraved-tankard with PD picture? A spoken-wikipedia 45?). Best
>>> example brought to Wikimania this summer will win a prize, with
>>> categories: most creative, best craftsmanship, best use of/compliance
>>> with the GFDL, etc. If a contributor sues you over content reuse, I'll
>>> help pay the legal fees, any items produced/sold commercially
>>> excepted.
>>> -- phoebe

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