[Foundation-l] GFDL Q&A update and question
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Sun Jan 11 14:08:32 UTC 2009
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
> A prize for best cross-media reuse of content - I love it. I will
> contribute to the prize pool one large gnu, and one piece of similarly
> huggable CC swag, signed by free-content luminaries To Be Named.
How does this help in creating a world in which every single human being can
freely share in the sum of all knowledge?
Nice gimmick, but c'mon. Engraved tankards aren't the best way to share
Granted, including full change histories is overkill, but at the very least
I think you ought to mention the names of the authors who want to be
attributed. If their contributions are so small as to make that infeasible,
you probably have a good case for fair use/fair dealing. There's absolutely
no reason the license should allow for anything else.
Erik claims that a link to the change history is attribution. But then he
claims that the change history itself isn't there for attribution. Then he
goes on to point out that it's possible to do more. That's great that it's
possible, but a license should make due credit mandatory, not just possible.
Fix Mediawiki first and then get back to us, Erik.
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:57 PM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:59 PM, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...
> >> Secondly you hit the issue that the license states that attribution
> >> should be reasonable "reasonable to the medium or means". Quite apart
> >> from the problem that this will vary from legal system to legal system
> >> the range of medium means that the resources needed for the guidance
> >> section are immense consider:
> >> Plastic models
> >> stained galss
> >> Globes with maps on them
> >> Cameo (carving)
> >> Wood pannel painting
> >> knitting
> >> Portrait photographs
> >> Ceramic sculpture
> >> metal cannon models
> >> maps
> >> computer games
> >> documentaries
> >> quiz books
> >> magazines
> >> Ceramic cups
> >> Engravings on Tankards
> >> music on magnetic tapes
> >> music by popular beat combos on vinyl records popularly known as ah
> >> etc
> >> All of which I can see without moveing from where I'm sitting or
> >> indeed turning around.
> > Ha! I would like to immediately challenge community members to come up
> > with some way to reuse wikimedia content in one of the media listed by
> > geni, above... (a knitted article, authors embroidered on the back?
> > An engraved-tankard with PD picture? A spoken-wikipedia 45?). Best
> > example brought to Wikimania this summer will win a prize, with
> > categories: most creative, best craftsmanship, best use of/compliance
> > with the GFDL, etc. If a contributor sues you over content reuse, I'll
> > help pay the legal fees, any items produced/sold commercially
> > excepted.
> > -- phoebe
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