[Foundation-l] Don't know how linked we still are with wikia...

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Tue Jan 6 19:11:48 UTC 2009

I have no involvement in Wikia, I am quite happy to say "poppycock" to you.

When the WMF has good relations with many organisations, I would credit the
WMF positively for this. Cooperation is very much what Wikis are about  or
should be about. Given that it has been explicitly said that cooperation
between these organisations is on a sound economic and practical basis, I
welcome it when WMF, Wikia, Wikihow, Wikiwhoever have close links.

2009/1/6 Delirium <delirium at hackish.org>

> Tim Starling wrote:
> > Delirium wrote:
> >
> >> Tim Starling wrote:
> >>
> >>> Brock Weller wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Don't know how linked we still are with wikia...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> What do you mean "still"? Wikimedia has never been linked with Wikia to
> >>> the extent where this topic might be relevant on foundation-l. It's no
> >>> more relevant than Wikitravel, Jimmy's objectivist mailing lists or
> >>> Answers.com.
> >>>
> >>> What Wikimedia's volunteers do outside of Wikimedia is their own
> business.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I'm pretty sure Wikitravel, Jimmy's objectivist mailing lists, and
> >> Answers.com have never been widely confused with Wikimedia to the extent
> >> that multiple news articles referred to them as the "commercial
> >> counterpart" to Wikipedia. > They also did not share office space or
> >> bandwidth with Wikimedia, or have debts to Wikimedia mentioned in
> >> independent financial audits. They also did not use advertising slogans
> >> that made prominent use of the Wikipedia trademark and implied a
> >> relationship, such as Wikia's former slogan, "Wikipedia is the
> >> Encyclopedia. Wikia is the rest of the library."
> >>
> >
> > I'm not seeing anything in that rant that contradicts the point I was
> > making. They might be different to Wikitravel in other ways, but they are
> > the same in terms of the lack of relevance of a content-related complaint
> > to foundation-l.
> >
> The point I was making is that the fact that people thought a
> content-related complaint about Wikia might be relevant to the
> foundation is the fault primarily of Wikia and the Foundation, and
> especially its entangled principals, not the fault of a newbie
> complainer who was misled by the association.
> Given your conflict of interest in this matter, you are also not
> particularly well positioned to comment.
> -Mark
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