[Foundation-l] mirroring a portion of the wikipedia

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
The French Wikipedia may pre-date the WMF but the hosting of the French
Wikipedia has always been done by the WMF. So your argument is a bit flaky.
Thanks,
      GerardM

2009/2/19 Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>

> The French Wikipedia wasn't created by the Foundation.
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> 2009/2/18 basedrop <basedrop at gmail.com>:
> > Hello Thomas and thanks for your response.
> >
> > I would point out that the foundation created a French version,  hosted
> it
> > on French servers, in the French language because they saw the benefit of
> > delivering something to a specific constituency.
> >
> > I don't have a particular need to have the art history portion of the
> wiki
> > editable for my users at my domain.  I have the specialized users at my
> > site,  I'd like to take advantage of that aggregation of specialized
> users
> > to the benefit of the wiki.    If you guys don't have an API for me,  I'm
> > o.k. with that.
> >
> > Web content is becoming more integrated across multiple platforms and
> > domains.   People can post to Facebook from twitter.  People can check
> Gmail
> > from POP3 clients.  People can post to a blog, and the data will
> instantly
> > replicate over multiple blogs around the world.  I can pull data from
> > multiple sources and aggregate it with an rss feed reader.   This is the
> > direction content and the web is heading.
> >
> > Bring the users to one domain, and keep the content within that domain
> can
> > be called the "walled garden" approach.  It is not a bad one, when you
> have
> > a need to control the users (e.g. facebook,) and the content.   In the
> case
> > of the wiki,  I'd suggest a more democratic approach of bringing the wiki
> to
> > the people.   You already do that with a push version of the wiki,  I'm
> just
> > suggesting you take it one step further and make it editable.   Imagine
> > sections of the wiki,  right where the experts are aggregated.
> Space.com
> > hosting a concurrent version of the astronomy section.   Technology at
> > slashdot.org.   Law at nolo.com... you get the drift.
> >
> > You guys consider this.  In the mean time I'll build up my site and my
> user
> > base.   If there is a way to integrate in the future,  I'll do that.  I'm
> > going to shoot for using openID, so this is just another reason for you
> guys
> > to consider the use of openID as well.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
> Dalton
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:57 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] mirroring a portion of the wikipedia
> >
> > 2009/2/18 basedrop <basedrop at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> I'm not sure if this is the place to pose this question,  if not could
> you
> >> respond with the proper place.
> >>
> >>  I'm building out a social networking site centered around an "art" and
> >> "arthistory" theme.  I would like to display a real time dynamic version
> > of
> >> the arthistory section of the wikipedia at my domain.
> >
> > Possible, but unlikely to happen, I'm afraid. There is little to be
> > gained for us compared to you just sending people to the main site.
> >
> >>I would like for my
> >> users to be able to edit this section at my domain.
> >
> > I don't think that's possible - at best all the edits would be from a
> > single account, and we don't really like group accounts.
> >
> >>   My domain is
> >> arthistory.com.   I am hoping to be able to provide a lot of acedemic
> and
> >> specialty users to this section via my site.   I think we could both
> > benefit
> >> from this relationship.  My users have direct access to the arthistory
> >> section of wikipedia,  the wikipedia gets access to my users who are
> > experts
> >> in the field.
> >
> > We would very much like to encourage your users to edit Wikipedia, but
> > it really would be much easier for us if they just came to our site.
> > Is there some reason why they particularly need to be doing it from
> > your site?
> >
> >>    I understand you can get a feed of the wikipedia, and also
> >> a database dump,  but I'm looking for a more real time and dynamic
> >> connection  (without just putting the wikipedia in an iframe.)
> >
> > I don't know of anything like that being done before. If it's just one
> > section of the site you could probably mirror it pretty well by
> > crawling it once a day or so - we don't like people crawling the whole
> > site, but one section shouldn't be a problem. If you want it
> > completely up-to-date then you need to access the Wikipedia servers
> > for each request, so you might as well just be on wikipedia.org
> >
> >>   I'd also
> >> prefer if I could use openID or some way of repurposing my user's
> >> registration to duel register with my site and with wikipedia, and
> create
> > a
> >> login session for both simultaneously.
> >
> > I'm sorry, we don't use openID on Wikipedia. It has been suggested,
> > and it's possible we will in the future, but we don't right now.
> >
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