[Foundation-l] mirroring a portion of the wikipedia

[Mark Williamson]

The French Wikipedia wasn't created by the Foundation.

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2009/2/18 basedrop <basedrop at gmail.com>:
> Hello Thomas and thanks for your response.
>
> I would point out that the foundation created a French version,  hosted it
> on French servers, in the French language because they saw the benefit of
> delivering something to a specific constituency.
>
> I don't have a particular need to have the art history portion of the wiki
> editable for my users at my domain.  I have the specialized users at my
> site,  I'd like to take advantage of that aggregation of specialized users
> to the benefit of the wiki.    If you guys don't have an API for me,  I'm
> o.k. with that.
>
> Web content is becoming more integrated across multiple platforms and
> domains.   People can post to Facebook from twitter.  People can check Gmail
> from POP3 clients.  People can post to a blog, and the data will instantly
> replicate over multiple blogs around the world.  I can pull data from
> multiple sources and aggregate it with an rss feed reader.   This is the
> direction content and the web is heading.
>
> Bring the users to one domain, and keep the content within that domain can
> be called the "walled garden" approach.  It is not a bad one, when you have
> a need to control the users (e.g. facebook,) and the content.   In the case
> of the wiki,  I'd suggest a more democratic approach of bringing the wiki to
> the people.   You already do that with a push version of the wiki,  I'm just
> suggesting you take it one step further and make it editable.   Imagine
> sections of the wiki,  right where the experts are aggregated.   Space.com
> hosting a concurrent version of the astronomy section.   Technology at
> slashdot.org.   Law at nolo.com... you get the drift.
>
> You guys consider this.  In the mean time I'll build up my site and my user
> base.   If there is a way to integrate in the future,  I'll do that.  I'm
> going to shoot for using openID, so this is just another reason for you guys
> to consider the use of openID as well.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Dalton
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:57 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] mirroring a portion of the wikipedia
>
> 2009/2/18 basedrop <basedrop at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I'm not sure if this is the place to pose this question,  if not could you
>> respond with the proper place.
>>
>>  I'm building out a social networking site centered around an "art" and
>> "arthistory" theme.  I would like to display a real time dynamic version
> of
>> the arthistory section of the wikipedia at my domain.
>
> Possible, but unlikely to happen, I'm afraid. There is little to be
> gained for us compared to you just sending people to the main site.
>
>>I would like for my
>> users to be able to edit this section at my domain.
>
> I don't think that's possible - at best all the edits would be from a
> single account, and we don't really like group accounts.
>
>>   My domain is
>> arthistory.com.   I am hoping to be able to provide a lot of acedemic and
>> specialty users to this section via my site.   I think we could both
> benefit
>> from this relationship.  My users have direct access to the arthistory
>> section of wikipedia,  the wikipedia gets access to my users who are
> experts
>> in the field.
>
> We would very much like to encourage your users to edit Wikipedia, but
> it really would be much easier for us if they just came to our site.
> Is there some reason why they particularly need to be doing it from
> your site?
>
>>    I understand you can get a feed of the wikipedia, and also
>> a database dump,  but I'm looking for a more real time and dynamic
>> connection  (without just putting the wikipedia in an iframe.)
>
> I don't know of anything like that being done before. If it's just one
> section of the site you could probably mirror it pretty well by
> crawling it once a day or so - we don't like people crawling the whole
> site, but one section shouldn't be a problem. If you want it
> completely up-to-date then you need to access the Wikipedia servers
> for each request, so you might as well just be on wikipedia.org
>
>>   I'd also
>> prefer if I could use openID or some way of repurposing my user's
>> registration to duel register with my site and with wikipedia, and create
> a
>> login session for both simultaneously.
>
> I'm sorry, we don't use openID on Wikipedia. It has been suggested,
> and it's possible we will in the future, but we don't right now.
>
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