[Foundation-l] The reality of printing a poster

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
The change of the license will happen not only for Wikipedia but for all
projects as I understand things.

When you do not like the notion that in real life people want  a clean
print, you will find that your legalistic approach hardly survives the real
world. There are people who like their jeans with labels. I remove them if I
can. In a way you take the position of the RIAA.
Thanks,


2009/2/3 Michael Peel <email at mikepeel.net>

>
> On 3 Feb 2009, at 21:01, Sam Johnston wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> > <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hoi,
> >> The economics of it are such that there is a real fine balance
> >> between cheap
> >> and expensive. I positvely hate text on my posters. Printing on
> >> the back is
> >> two prints and that IS expensive. My point has been and still is
> >> that it is
> >> nice to come up with "solutions". They have to be practical in the
> >> real
> >> world. If a proposed solution adds enough overhead, the effect
> >> will be that
> >> it will not be accepted a solution.
> >
> > Thanks for another practical example of attribution stifling reuse -
> > too bad if you ever wanted to print something like this:
> >
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikimediaMosaicCapture.png
> >
> > I'd be a lot more accepting of a 'Wikipedia' and/or the Wikipedia logo
> > printed discretely in the bottom right corner of my poster than one or
> > more meaningless usernames too.
>
> You're overlooking the large range (with a high skew) of the number
> of authors on images and are instead focussing on the extremal value.
> For my pictures, I am currently the single author on all of them
> (although that may not be the case in the future). They are released
> under a license that requires attribution. If you don't like that,
> use another picture.
>
> Where larger numbers of authors for images are concerned, you're
> arguing your viewpoint, not the legal situation. Unless you can argue
> fair use, then you're bound by the licenses that the images were
> released under originally. If those licenses say that the author must
> be attributed, then you must attribute the author. You can't
> whitewash over that.
>
> Two final points. Note that all of my images (and edits) are done
> under my real name; not everyone's username is meaningless. Also,
> Wikimedia (inc. or exc. Commons) is not Wikipedia.
>
> Mike
>
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