[Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

[geni]

2009/12/16 Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt at gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > We've advertised third party for-profits in the past with prominent
>> > matched donations notices before (albeit controversially). This isn't
>> > that different.
>>
>> As you say, that one was controversial and this one isn't that
>> different. Then it should not surprise you that this one is
>> controversial too, should it? Or do people lose the right to complain
>> against something if it happens the second time?
>>
>>
>> --
>> André Engels, andreengels at gmail.com
>
>
> At what point is something "controversial"? As far as I can remember there
> hasn't been a single decision in the history of Wikimedia that has received
> universal support. Some people will complain no matter what happens. When
> you're the person doing the complaining it is your POV that the issue is
> "controversial", whereas when you're the one who isn't complaining then it
> is your POV that the issue is NOT "controversial" and the complainers are
> just overreacting.
>
> There is no objective criteria to define controversy. Furthermore, if there
> is one place in the Wikimedia world where people complain the loudest,
> longest and for most obscure reasons - it's here on foundatio.nl So, whilst
> I'm not ignoring the fact that Geni et. al. genuinely feel that this was a
> bad decision on behalf of the fundraising team, I do not believe that this
> particular issue warrants the term "controversy". It is something that some
> people dislike but most people are either indifferent to it or see it
> favourably. Your concerns have been raised, elaborated and debated. I don't
> think there's anything more that can be said about this particular issue
> other than to reiterate already voiced points.
>
> -Liam [[witty lama]]
>
> wittylama.com/blog
> Peace, love & metadata

There is one point left. We can't measure the change in traffic to
Craigslist but we can measure this:

http://stats.grok.se/en/200912/Craigslist


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geni