[Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

[Liam Wyatt]

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > We've advertised third party for-profits in the past with prominent
> > matched donations notices before (albeit controversially). This isn't
> > that different.
>
> As you say, that one was controversial and this one isn't that
> different. Then it should not surprise you that this one is
> controversial too, should it? Or do people lose the right to complain
> against something if it happens the second time?
>
>
> --
> André Engels, andreengels at gmail.com


At what point is something "controversial"? As far as I can remember there
hasn't been a single decision in the history of Wikimedia that has received
universal support. Some people will complain no matter what happens. When
you're the person doing the complaining it is your POV that the issue is
"controversial", whereas when you're the one who isn't complaining then it
is your POV that the issue is NOT "controversial" and the complainers are
just overreacting.

There is no objective criteria to define controversy. Furthermore, if there
is one place in the Wikimedia world where people complain the loudest,
longest and for most obscure reasons - it's here on foundatio.nl So, whilst
I'm not ignoring the fact that Geni et. al. genuinely feel that this was a
bad decision on behalf of the fundraising team, I do not believe that this
particular issue warrants the term "controversy". It is something that some
people dislike but most people are either indifferent to it or see it
favourably. Your concerns have been raised, elaborated and debated. I don't
think there's anything more that can be said about this particular issue
other than to reiterate already voiced points.

-Liam [[witty lama]]

wittylama.com/blog
Peace, love & metadata

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