[Foundation-l] Principle and pragmatism with nudity and sexual content

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Tue Apr 21 14:22:04 UTC 2009

When you make illustration not visible you effectively remove them. It is a
cop out to continue and say that it is *others *that can decide that they do
not want to be informed, that they are willing that other people are at risk
because essential images are not readily available. It is a cop out because
this risk is ignored. Ignored because it is convenient

As to BLP, the images that I am talking about do not identify people. They
show what is essentially a detail and a penis or a vagina may be part of

When the issue is about people using images in places where they are not
appropriate, then deal with that issue. Do not confuse this with the
legitimate use of essential but problematic images.

2009/4/21 Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru>

> > Someone I know did not recognise a venereal disease and as a consequence
> > she
> > became barren. It is because of this that I asked a Dutch organisation
> for
> > illustrations of how venereal diseases visually manifest themselves. The
> > images I got show sexual organs, show ulcers and other things that are
> > quite
> > horrid. The only way I know that gives people a fighting chance is by
> > educating them, by providing information. That is in our mission. Our
> > mission does not say we will give you information, "sanitised"
> > information,
> > information that will not help you because it is incomplete.
> >
> > When you argue that there is no need for "arty" nude pictures, I agree.
> > That
> > is a completely different subject then hiding essential information that
> > we
> > need in our articles. Our articles require the highest quality
> > illustrations
> > because in this way we are true to our mission to inform.
> > Thanks,
> >        GerardM
> >
> >
> I believe in this part of the discussion nobody argues that the images
> like you mention should be removed, it is just a question whether they
> should be tagged (named, categorized) appropriately so that communities
> may decide to include them as hidden for instance.
> This is under understanding the whole issue is not covered by BLP policy
> (I assume if a vagina is shown but the face is not this is not a BLP
> issue).
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
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