[Foundation-l] Can anyone really edit Wikipedia?

phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki at gmail.com
Thu Sep 25 15:29:40 UTC 2008


On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Jesse Plamondon-Willard
<pathoschild at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  You're right, the way we currently do references results in a complete
>>  mess. It requires some development work to make any progress, I think
>>  - I'll take a look at the relevant code and see if it can be done
>>  easily.
>
>
> One solution would be to define references at the bottom of the
> article, and use them in the text. (This is possible with the current
> implementation, but only messily.) Then the code above would look
> something like below.
>
> The infobox is a separate problem, but fixing the inline references
> will be a huge improvement.
>
> ######################################
> The 100 millionth account was created on August 6, 2006<ref
> name="MySpace100Millionth" /> in the [[Netherlands]]<ref
> name="Murdochcomments" /> and approximately 106 million accounts on
> September 8, 2006,<ref name="ElReg-MySpaceMusic" /> and the site
> attracts 230,000 new users per day<ref name="PatriciaSellers" />.
>
> ==References==
> <ref name="MySpace100Millionth Profile">{{cite news
> |url=http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=100000000
> |publisher=MySpace
> |title=100,000,000th Account
> |date=2007-02-25
> |accessdate=2007-02-21
> }}</ref>
>
> <ref name="Murdochcomments">{{cite news
> | url=http://internet.seekingalpha.com/article/15237
> | publisher=SeekingAlpha
> | title=Rupert Murdoch Comments on Fox Interactive's Growth
> | last=Murdoch
> | first=Rupert
> | date=2006-08-09
> | accessdate=2006-09-12
> }}</ref>
>
> <ref name="ElReg-MySpaceMusic">{{cite news
> | url = http://go.theregister.com/feed/http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/08/myspace_threatens_record_labels/
> | title = MySpace music deal poses multiple threats
> | date=  2006-09-08
> | accessdate = 2006-09-08
> | publisher = The Register
> }}</ref>
>
> <ref name="PatriciaSellers">{{cite
> news|last=Sellers|first=Patricia|title=MySpace
> cowboys|url=http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/09/04/8384727/index.htm|work=[[Money
> (magazine)|Money]]|publisher=CNN.com|date=2006-09-04|accessdate=2008-04-13}}</ref>
>
> <references />
> ######################################


I was going to say as well, what happened to that proposal to define
references at the bottom of the article instead of inline? And then
Pathos posted a nice implementation above. It does make a whole lot
more sense from both a reader and an editor's point of view to have
reference metadata in a single place, away from the wikitext. Defining
refs with a "refname" in the text doesn't seem too bad... other than
the mess of trying to get a different stylistic system going, is there
some reason we don't do this?

-- phoebe


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